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steve1984 09 Jan 19 5.42pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

....where it goes in terms of a universal basic income...who knows....but the employment map of the future is hard to predict.

So everyone will be on welfare? They'll need to open a Wetherspoons on almost every street corner.

 

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Originally posted by steve1984

So everyone will be on welfare? They'll need to open a Wetherspoons on almost every street corner.


Somehow I don't think your local imam will be happy about that.

 

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steve1984 09 Jan 19 5.54pm

They do a cuppa at the spoons don't they?

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Current EU immigrants still cost less than current non EU immigrants.

I know, albeit the correct description is probably add more.

And your point is?

I thought you were anti EU migrants and indeed anti the EU.

 

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Originally posted by steve1984

They do a cuppa at the spoons don't they?

I don't think it quite works like that my man.

Still....after doing that beers and ales thing over Christmas I've only just got sober.

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

I know, albeit the correct description is probably add more.

And your point is?

I thought you were anti EU migrants and indeed anti the EU.

I made my point....immigration policy is a ponzi scheme....a curse for current and future generations in several different forms.

I am anti EU migrant....well to be more accurate....I'm anti freedom of movement......the economic argument was never the reason for me rejecting the EU.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jan 2019 6.06pm)

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 09 Jan 19 6.38pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Somehow I don't think your local imam will be happy about that.

that is a shocking thing to say. Its almost as if the rate of 'longterm unemployment' for muslims is statistically extremely high ? how soon before it becomes forbidden to tell the truth ?

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (09 Jan 2019 6.42pm)

 


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 09 Jan 19 6.55pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Are you saying that people are claiming asylum and then bringing in multiple wives, each of whom needs a separate home which is paid for by the State? Wow, I never knew. I thought the asylum requirements were that you can bring in people that lived with the successful asylum claimant in the home country so I don't really see how that can be. But I guess you know your facts Becky.

I blame the Mormons

Edited by Mapletree (09 Jan 2019 4.30pm)

Yup, whilst polygamy is illegal in this country, if the marriages have taken place in countries where it is legal, then they may bring the additional wives here. The limitation is that they can only claim the married couple's allowances for the first wife,but any others are treated as single parents and, as such, are entitled to housing benefit, child benefit et al.

 


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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

that is a shocking thing to say. Its almost as if the rate of 'longterm unemployment' for muslims is statistically extremely high ? how soon before it becomes forbidden to tell the truth ?

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (09 Jan 2019 6.42pm)

Around 2050 I'd say.

Though obviously even now anyone saying anything controversial in public life is hounded by activists and then sacked by the establishment institutions big and small via fear of reputational damage.....The professionally offended rule.

What is truth isn't important......What is allowed to be said is all that matters.


Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Jan 2019 7.10pm)

 

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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

that is a shocking thing to say. Its almost as if the rate of 'longterm unemployment' for muslims is statistically extremely high ? how soon before it becomes forbidden to tell the truth ?

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (09 Jan 2019 6.42pm)

I wonder how many of the Muslim unemployed are female? I would suggest that it is far more likely for a married Christian woman to work, than a married Islamic woman. Not across the board by any means but seems reasonable considering the religious and cultural viewpoints of many of both religions.

 


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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 09 Jan 19 7.28pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree


Regarding 3, immigrants historically are far less demanding on the NHS and on housing than indigenous people but pay more on average in taxes. So it is they that are funding the established population. We need to adjust the system to the demand they bring, they easily pay for themselves. And they are also highly over-represented in NHS employees.

Edited by Mapletree (09 Jan 2019 3.50pm)

We've gone through this already and established the studies from 'Full Fact' website.

EU migrants contribute marginally more into the system, whereas non EU take out more.

And anyway, aren't we talking about illegal immigration on dighys. Which is illegal, no matter what you can prove or disprove about the NHS.

 


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Originally posted by becky

Yup, whilst polygamy is illegal in this country, if the marriages have taken place in countries where it is legal, then they may bring the additional wives here. The limitation is that they can only claim the married couple's allowances for the first wife,but any others are treated as single parents and, as such, are entitled to housing benefit, child benefit et al.

For me to gauge the scale of the problem, do you have statistics on the numbers?

I have never come across such an example. Do you have a source?

This is from the House of Commons Library

Immigration issues
It has been the policy of successive governments to prevent the formation of polygamous
households in the UK. A UK resident cannot sponsor a non-EEA national for permission to
enter or remain in the UK as their spouse if another person has already been granted such
permission, and the marriage has not been dissolved.

Edited by Mapletree (09 Jan 2019 7.32pm)

 

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