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View madcap_v2's Profile madcap_v2 Flag Nope. 18 Jan 19 11.34am Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


I agree it is about choice.

Now on to the bit that the human body doesn't need it this is complete utter rubbish and evidence to prove this stems back to the first humans what did they consume meat.

Meat is the most nutritionist type of food their is the big problem is over produced and animals being pumped full of steroids etc but then you have that side to the likes of veggies as well so being a vegetarian doesn't make you healthy in most cases its the opposite

Plenty of people live a healthy life without meat, so to say that the human body doesn't need it, is accurate, I'd say.

Most nutritionist? What does that mean?

Just one article and each their own, but this would suggest that meat isn't the most nutritious food.


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 31 May 19 6.30pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

More disruptive behavior from vegans,but you've just
gotta love the sign the butcher is holding up to camera......

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I can only suppose that the other protestor fell over 'cos he was too weak to stand - needs a bit of protein probably

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 31 May 19 7.46pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Lab grown meat seems like the solution that will eventually solve all of this. I'll get to stick to my existing protein rich diet, and nobody will be able to blame me for killing percy the pig in the process.

Badger's occasional vegan retreats don't sound like a bad idea though to be honest. I too have been known to retreat from vegans . All jokes aside, I think most of us eat too much processed crap and so having a period of eating low calorie whole foods would do us some good.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 31 May 19 9.06pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I haven't read the whole thread (but don't tell the boss)so apologies if you've already covered this.

I assume that you are not vegan judging by the wording of your post. Does that cause difficulties in the kitchen with someone having to prepare two completely different meals?

Sorry ME have only just gone back to this thread. To answer your question, not really I tend to eat Vegan at home (which on the whole is most enjoyable)

 

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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 31 May 19 10.06pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

i am pretty much pescatarian...love it.

couldnt give up fish / cheese / eggs if i tried.

its a good way to go.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 15 Jun 19 4.11pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Having spent most of my working life in the food ingredients industry this is a subject close to my heart. The mantra there was "there are no bad foods, only bad diets"and this is true. Humans are not herbivores or carnivores. We are omnivores and able to survive and prosper on a variety of diets, which is clearly evidenced by the huge differences to be found around the world.

In my opinion there are many things that we need to reduce our consumption of before tackling meat, or all processed foods. The biggest concern for me is simply salt. We consume far too much salt than we need and as it encourages water retention it can help cause obesity and be a killer. We have become conditioned to expect it in our food because it has been used to preserve foods for centuries and enhances the flavour of poor quality ingredients. Stop adding salt to your cooking and add more herbs and spices and you will be much healthier.

Those vegans who don't eat meat because they love animals seem to me to miss the point. Those animals bred for meat depend on us eating them to have any life at all. You can argue that their welfare needs to be improved but not that you should not eat them.

Eat a varied diet, cut out the high salt levels and reduce the fat intake. Then don't worry too much. So long as you don't try to live on just a few things you will be fine. Food should be enjoyed and not over worried about. Eat as fresh as you can, but only because it tastes better fresh. Support sustainable farming as a sensible low cost method of production but ignore organic which is a big con trick played on the public. It just isn't any better for you and often gets flown in at great cost, using land that ought to serve local communities.


 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 15 Jun 19 4.40pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

i am pretty much pescatarian...love it.

couldnt give up fish / cheese / eggs if i tried.

I also love fish but don't eat much as it isn't fresh enough in The Midlands.

I used to live in Newcastle where really fresh fish is available all the time and from there we moved to Devon just a stones throw from Brixham where delicious fresh fish was available all year round.

Nowadays I just eat fish (and lots of it) on holiday where it is much fresher and therefore tastier

 

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View Beanyboysmd's Profile Beanyboysmd Flag 15 Jun 19 5.03pm Send a Private Message to Beanyboysmd Add Beanyboysmd as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Vegans are anti nature because nature has created the whole meat eating dynamic.

Once of my young cousins has recently switched to being a vegan.

Is it right to be against nature in some circumstances?.....My instinct is no.....But it's a thoughtful question I haven't fully explored.

We are all alive because we went against nature, antibiotics and cooking are against nature, diseases and death arn't. i say bollocks to nature, we are all here because somewhere down the line we realised we could cheat nature...

 

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View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 15 Jun 19 5.08pm Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Originally posted by Beanyboysmd

We are all alive because we went against nature, antibiotics and cooking are against nature, diseases and death arn't. i say bollocks to nature, we are all here because somewhere down the line we realised we could cheat nature...

Rampant cancer rates, antibiotic resistance, type 2 diabetes and increased numbers of people topping themselves, thus taking themselves out of the gene pool tends to fly in the face of that, but there you go.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 15 Jun 19 5.56pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Rampant cancer rates, antibiotic resistance, type 2 diabetes and increased numbers of people topping themselves, thus taking themselves out of the gene pool tends to fly in the face of that, but there you go.

But there are no records pre say the 40s about cancer so surely it's been here for ever.
People topping themselves must be more than diet.
Society and stress I reckon must have an effect.

 

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View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 15 Jun 19 7.08pm Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

But there are no records pre say the 40s about cancer so surely it's been here for ever.
People topping themselves must be more than diet.
Society and stress I reckon must have an effect.

Yes, my point was that topping yourself is against nature.

Cancer has been around since year dot, but modern living (including eating vast quantities of red meat and doing unnatural things like smoking plants) has increased it.

 

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