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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 09 Feb 19 9.53pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The guy who has supported the creation of a Museum that excludes everybody who isn't black wants to call me racist.

Madcap at least was fine with race museums of any colour, so while I don't regard that as a good thing that's a view I can respect.

But Stevie boy.....well....

In another thread he implied that white people from Liverpool should feel guilty for slavery when in reality...like most of the working class who made up the percentage of the country.... most of them had nothing to do with it.

You know...because if you're white....You should feel guilt because of your white skin colour....'Born guilty'.

Yet I'm apparently the racist one.

The west abandoned slavery a long time ago...in our case hundreds of years ago....Saudi Arabia abolished slavery in 1962, Yemen and Oman ended legal slavery in 1970,Niger didn't abolish slavery until 2004.....In fact in parts of the middle east and Africa de facto slavery still goes on.....and the state here has even found immigrants from non western countries practicing it here.

How much crap do you think these guys get to hear from progressive jokers about that.......I wonder why that is....Could it be race?

Yet I'm apparently the racist one.


Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Feb 2019 9.56pm)

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 09 Feb 19 10.39pm Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Am I missing something?

Steve1984 chucks about accusations of racism and other mindless insults but doesn't like being called Nick.

Wtf is that about? Who's Nick anyway?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Feb 19 10.55pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

Be my guest but please note that the moderator knows me by my real name which is Steve.

You can often learn more about someone on a forum like this from what they don't say and this is certainly the case with Stirling.

He's always very careful not to incriminate himself with anything tangibly racist. But nevertheless he is a racist.

He's quite a clever bloke, certainly my intellectual equal, so no Albert Einstein but well educated and articulate. So when he feigns ignorance about something contentious as he did in the very early stages of this thread, you can be sure that the reason has nothing to do with ignorance but rather an unwillingness to debate a topic that doesn't fit with his political and social agenda.

Let's not forget that whilst he doesn't support the idea, he has no problem with a Museum of Black British Culture in the UK, as long as nobody is denied the quid pro quo opportunity to found a Museum of White Culture somewhere in the Caribbean.

Very even handed, who could possibly take offence?

Not me. He doesn't offend me. But I'd prefer not to imply something which I have reason to believe is true. It's only libelous if I'm wrong.

Do you seriously believe that anyone cares what you think?

Your only desire is to antagonise and shut down debate by throwing accusations about.

You call someone a racist for highlighting the inconsistencies and double standards in race politics.
Do you realise how utterly stupid that is?

Of course you don't.


It is also bloody hilarious when you call someone a racist because of 'what they don't say'.
That is so Leftist and dumb. I have heard that one before n the BBS. Plenty of dimwits on there.

That's like calling someone a murderer because you have never actually seen the kill someone.

Brilliant logic...If you are a total moron.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Feb 2019 11.10pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Feb 19 11.00pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Am I missing something?

Steve1984 chucks about accusations of racism and other mindless insults but doesn't like being called Nick.

Wtf is that about? Who's Nick anyway?

He bears a remarkable similarity to a previous poster called Nick who we were glad to see the back of because he constantly antagonised posters with his obsessive left wing drivel and only got away with it because his mate was a former mod.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Feb 2019 11.01pm)

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 09 Feb 19 11.51pm Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

He bears a remarkable similarity to a previous poster called Nick who we were glad to see the back of because he constantly antagonised posters with his obsessive left wing drivel and only got away with it because his mate was a former mod.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Feb 2019 11.01pm)

Right, got it. Thanks.

So basically, if he doesn't get a card for this it's definitely the same geezer then, just a different handle.

 

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steve1984 10 Feb 19 12.08am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

In another thread he implied that white people from Liverpool should feel guilty for slavery when in reality...like most of the working class who made up the percentage of the country.... most of them had nothing to do with it.

I said that it is a city without an economic purpose, nothing more, nothing less.

You translated that into the above. Why? Because it serves your purpose to do so. Self evidently nobody in Liverpool (or indeed Bristol where I live) should feel guilty about slavery.

Deflecting the arguement away from your own opinions by attributing some fictitious opinions to other people is the modus operandi of the unprincipled and cowardly.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 10 Feb 19 12.36am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

I said that it is a city without an economic purpose, nothing more, nothing less.

You translated that into the above. Why? Because it serves your purpose to do so. Self evidently nobody in Liverpool (or indeed Bristol where I live) should feel guilty about slavery.

Untrue, anyone who read that exchange could see that you were pushing white guilt....indeed it was the whole reason you ended up saying the ridiculous 'it doesn't have an economic purpose'.

Originally posted by steve1984

Deflecting the arguement away from your own opinions by attributing some fictitious opinions to other people is the modus operandi of the unprincipled and cowardly.

Deflecting from opinions? You called me a racist...because of things I hadn't said!!!..and here you tell me that focusing on your hypocrisy in these matters is 'deflecting'!......boy oh boy.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Feb 19 1.05am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Right, got it. Thanks.

So basically, if he doesn't get a card for this it's definitely the same geezer then, just a different handle.

His mod friend left the site at the same time.

Midland says it's not him and he is in a position to know.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 10 Feb 19 1.08am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steve1984

I said that it is a city without an economic purpose, nothing more, nothing less.

You translated that into the above. Why? Because it serves your purpose to do so. Self evidently nobody in Liverpool (or indeed Bristol where I live) should feel guilty about slavery.

Deflecting the arguement away from your own opinions by attributing some fictitious opinions to other people is the modus operandi of the unprincipled and cowardly.

Why should anyone living feel guilty about slavery? It had nothing to do with them.

Should they also feel guilty about slavery throughout human history?

 

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View Pussay Patrol's Profile Pussay Patrol Flag 10 Feb 19 1.15am Send a Private Message to Pussay Patrol Add Pussay Patrol as a friend

We can't rewrite the history books but should pay any reparations

 


Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Deflecting from opinions? You called me a racist...because of things I hadn't said!!!..and here you tell me that focusing on your hypocrisy in these matters is 'deflecting'!......boy oh boy.

The basis of rationality almost indefinitely comes from Stirling. He hasn't once made a 'racist' inference, and quite clearly is illustrating his points without discriminating against a race, rather just posing a very sensical question. It's people like you who are tarnishing potential for a voice on the centre-left and in fact doing the opposite and pushing people towards the right..

 


Dont let Cabaye go

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People have been complaining that general talk has become like a playground where a few people engage in their own personal slagging matches.

The above is a sticky at the top of this forum that doubtless most of you have read but seem happy to ignore thinking that it doesn't apply to you.

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