You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > IS Schoolgirl wants to come home
April 10 2021 8.59pm

IS Schoolgirl wants to come home

Previous Topic | Next Topic


Page 70 of 74 < 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 >

 

View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Mar 21 10.31am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have no idea about this lady but anyone wishing to migrate to the UK now, and for quite a while, has to sit the IELTS exam to prove they have a basic English competency before a visa is granted. Once here and wishing to extend their visa during the usual 5 year probation period the level of competency demanded increases. Settlement at 5 years means they have to pass the "Life in the UK test" which demands they know a whole raft of things about British culture and history. Some of which would challenge many who have lived here since birth. There are practice tests online. Try a few if you don't believe me.

On top of that at every stage questions are asked about whether the applicant has ever been a member of, supports or sympathises with a terrorist organisation. I doubt anyone has ever answered "yes" but the point is that should they subsequently have been found to have lied then they would have breached their visa conditions and be subject to immediate removal.

Then there's the cost. It's very expensive. Every stage demands fees, the basic processing plus extras for the exams, interviews etc. The fee for a settlement, indefinite leave to remain visa is around £2,500 plus, plus, plus. If an agent is used to wade through the bureaucracy then you can double that. If anyone spends less than £10,000 they have done well.

Of course, none of this applies to illegals and that's where the real problems exist.

Really? I was volunteering at a surgery last week and we had plenty who could not speak or understand English, not saying they are bad people and glad to see them getting the jab but English was not their thing.

 


One more point

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Mar 21 10.53am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Really? I was volunteering at a surgery last week and we had plenty who could not speak or understand English, not saying they are bad people and glad to see them getting the jab but English was not their thing.

I guess it will depend on when they arrived. Things have changed a lot in the last 10 years.

My first experience with the system was in 2002 and it was then a very simple thing, handled directly by the Embassy involved. Fill in a form, attend an interview, get a visa. Then a lot got shifted to Lunar House in Croydon which was a nightmare to deal with.

Nowadays it's all handled by commercial businesses on behalf of UKVI who make the final decisions but at arm's length so there is no opportunity for any kind of personal assessment.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Mar 21 10.54am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Really? I was volunteering at a surgery last week and we had plenty who could not speak or understand English, not saying they are bad people and glad to see them getting the jab but English was not their thing.

Many of the Asian countries such as India/pakistan/Bangladesh would have come on family visas and then applied through family. They would not have to follow these procedures.
As Wisbech points out, nor would the illegal immigrants who number 100s of thousands.
The other point is that you can quite easily live in the UK without ever needing to speak English. That's where the problem is.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Mar 21 11.25am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Many of the Asian countries such as India/pakistan/Bangladesh would have come on family visas and then applied through family. They would not have to follow these procedures.
As Wisbech points out, nor would the illegal immigrants who number 100s of thousands.
The other point is that you can quite easily live in the UK without ever needing to speak English. That's where the problem is.

It makes little or no difference these days if you are on the family route other than that you have an established reason why you can apply. You still have to go through the same procedures, prove your English, sit the "Life in the UK test" and pay the fees.

No-one other than illegals escapes this.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 01 Mar 21 4.44pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It makes little or no difference these days if you are on the family route other than that you have an established reason why you can apply. You still have to go through the same procedures, prove your English, sit the "Life in the UK test" and pay the fees.

No-one other than illegals escapes this.

so what do they do that allows them to stay.......one today, about to be deported, suddenly 'remembered' that he is bisexual and therefore immune to deportation.....

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Mar 21 4.56pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

so what do they do that allows them to stay.......one today, about to be deported, suddenly 'remembered' that he is bisexual and therefore immune to deportation.....

Shouldn't he be made to prove it

"We're just going to lock you in a cell with Bubba who will take real good care of you"

 


One more point

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 01 Mar 21 7.01pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Shouldn't he be made to prove it

"We're just going to lock you in a cell with Bubba who will take real good care of you"

excellent idea!!

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 01 Mar 21 7.03pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It makes little or no difference these days if you are on the family route other than that you have an established reason why you can apply. You still have to go through the same procedures, prove your English, sit the "Life in the UK test" and pay the fees.

No-one other than illegals escapes this.

Is there a life in cornwall test? Asking because my mother is moving from Kent (hotbed of covid) to Cornwall next month

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 01 Mar 21 7.13pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have no idea about this lady but anyone wishing to migrate to the UK now, and for quite a while, has to sit the IELTS exam to prove they have a basic English competency before a visa is granted. Once here and wishing to extend their visa during the usual 5 year probation period the level of competency demanded increases. Settlement at 5 years means they have to pass the "Life in the UK test" which demands they know a whole raft of things about British culture and history. Some of which would challenge many who have lived here since birth. There are practice tests online. Try a few if you don't believe me.

On top of that at every stage questions are asked about whether the applicant has ever been a member of, supports or sympathises with a terrorist organisation. I doubt anyone has ever answered "yes" but the point is that should they subsequently have been found to have lied then they would have breached their visa conditions and be subject to immediate removal.

Then there's the cost. It's very expensive. Every stage demands fees, the basic processing plus extras for the exams, interviews etc. The fee for a settlement, indefinite leave to remain visa is around £2,500 plus, plus, plus. If an agent is used to wade through the bureaucracy then you can double that. If anyone spends less than £10,000 they have done well.

Of course, none of this applies to illegals and that's where the real problems exist.

You forgot to mention that family members of EU nationals did not have to pay a fee or comply with virtually none of the conditions your wife would have had to... fact. At least we have been able to ditch this prejudice against our own nationals
Dependant Relative Visa Applicants do not have to pass a test

Edited by Spiderman (01 Mar 2021 7.24pm)

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 01 Mar 21 7.19pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I guess it will depend on when they arrived. Things have changed a lot in the last 10 years.

My first experience with the system was in 2002 and it was then a very simple thing, handled directly by the Embassy involved. Fill in a form, attend an interview, get a visa. Then a lot got shifted to Lunar House in Croydon which was a nightmare to deal with.

Nowadays it's all handled by commercial businesses on behalf of UKVI who make the final decisions but at arm's length so there is no opportunity for any kind of personal assessment.

Very true and by removing the visa issuing away from
local Embassies you also lose the “local knowledge” the Visa Officers had. Very little chance of establishing if documents submitted are forged etc.
Very few now interviewed, this was first trialled in 2001 at the overseas post I was working in. It was all about making money, the more you dealt with/issued the more money generated. The fact that this resulted in poorer issuing didn’t seem to worry the powers that be

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 01 Mar 21 7.21pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

so what do they do that allows them to stay.......one today, about to be deported, suddenly 'remembered' that he is bisexual and therefore immune to deportation.....

That’s the Human Rights Act for you

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 01 Mar 21 7.23pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It makes little or no difference these days if you are on the family route other than that you have an established reason why you can apply. You still have to go through the same procedures, prove your English, sit the "Life in the UK test" and pay the fees.

No-one other than illegals escapes this.

Of course visitors don’t have to pass this test, and believe it or not some never leave after the visit

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply

 

Page 70 of 74 < 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 >

Previous Topic | Next Topic

You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > IS Schoolgirl wants to come home