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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 13 Mar 19 5.31pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by richard shaw (og)65

The usual deluded b0ll0cks by people that don't live in London

when the OP wrote, 'please keep the discussion polite and respectful'.... that means get a yellow if you start throwing sh1.t.

we want facts and logical argument. Not insults, hyperbole, nor invective. thanks.

Fact : The World University Rankings see the americans go from strength to strength. But London is still important. Chicago has a good university but the city itself is nearly sinking in a sea of debt and decay.

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 13 Mar 19 5.40pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Iíve lived my whole life in London, aside from 3 years at University, and I canít see myself leaving any time soon; I still love it.

Canít agree at all with the assessment that itís Ďfallení.

Itís interesting to read all this talk of how all these dangerous ghettos have formed - there are countless areas which are infinitely safer and more desirable than even 10 years ago; Brixton, Peckham, Lewisham, Elephant & Castle have all been gentrified beyond recognition, and appear to be continuing to do so.

When you say these areas have gentrified, what has really happened is that they have had an influx of middle class white people.

It's the places where the former residents have been dispersed to that will now have problems.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 13 Mar 19 5.41pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Iím a local person who owns and lives in a high rise block in Lewisham, so I donít particularly agree with your assessment. The majority of my neighbours are British.

I donít quite get the point on the number of dwellings in SE; in light of the housing issues, isnít that a good thing?

The shops/restaurants will come; it takes serious time for an area to change to that extent; Lewisham in another 20 years will be unrecognisable - youíre already seeing a load of these trendy sorts of pubs/bars and cafes opening up in Lewisham, assuming thatís what you mean by character. The residential investment only really kicked into gear in the last 5 years or so.

When I said local I meant that many of these places have been bought by people who work in Canary Wharf and socialise in that area or central London. 2 former colleges who live in the block by Deptford DLR admitted they had never shopped in Deptford. Lewisham is becoming a commuter city, get up DLR to work go out uptown, home to bed. It doesn't really benefit the local economy.

And the council has made a complete horlicks of the traffic flow in and around the high street which doesn't hep either.

I hope you are right about bars and restaurants and quality shops but for now if you want that you go to Blackheath or Greenwich.

 


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View Galv's Profile Galv Flag Old Coulsdon 13 Mar 19 5.51pm Send a Private Message to Galv Add Galv as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

It was a f***ing comedy, not meant to reflect south London at any time!!

Bread was apparently a comedy. It fueled my skewed view of Liverpool as being a city of parasites.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 13 Mar 19 6.00pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

I lived in Newham for 14 years, a borough which identified 16% of the residents as White British in the last census. Canít say I noticed many advantages to the increased vibrancy of the area.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 13 Mar 19 6.09pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

i always thought the 'Benefit Cap' would move unproductive elements out of London and off to places like Stoke-on-Trent.

thus bolstering the London housing supply and hence its labour supply.

certainly West Norwood is far more gentrified now than 25 years ago. But that was when the telly news described the local Building Society as having the highest number of armed robberies per year ( 20+ robberies if i recall correctly).

i always wondered why the staff there looked so jumpy when i reached into my jacket to get a chequebook.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (13 Mar 2019 6.14pm)

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 13 Mar 19 6.32pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

When I said local I meant that many of these places have been bought by people who work in Canary Wharf and socialise in that area or central London. 2 former colleges who live in the block by Deptford DLR admitted they had never shopped in Deptford. Lewisham is becoming a commuter city, get up DLR to work go out uptown, home to bed.It doesn't really benefit the local economy.

And the council has made a complete horlicks of the traffic flow in and around the high street which doesn't hep either.

I hope you are right about bars and restaurants and quality shops but for now if you want that you go to Blackheath or Greenwich.

Youíve basically described me there

It will come with time; there are already certain restaurants and bars popping up in Lewisham/Deptford which are packed with professionals every night.

I sold my car within a year of moving to Lewisham which tells you all you need to know about the traffic. Waste of time.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (13 Mar 2019 6.32pm)

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 13 Mar 19 6.33pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

When you say these areas have gentrified, what has really happened is that they have had an influx of middle class white people.

It's the places where the former residents have been dispersed to that will now have problems.

Sure, I agree - I donít think that supports the idea that London is falling though. Arenít all the white middle class supposed to be running away?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Mar 19 6.49pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

The 'fall of London' has not come with bombs and the sound of tanks rolling into Trafalgar Square, it is a steady pervasive creep.

Britain as a whole will go the same way as immigrant populations outbreed us and slowly make more demands and dictate our politics to an increasing extent.

As I have said before. We are the Neanderthals in this scenario. It is about sheer numbers and the train of migrants will never stop.

It seems as if politicians have already surrendered to the certainty of the extinction of the European.
They have sold our future for personal gain.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 13 Mar 19 6.56pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Sure, I agree - I donít think that supports the idea that London is falling though. Arenít all the white middle class supposed to be running away?

The stats are facts.

What you are talking about is different. You are talking about the middle class taking over previously working class areas...Something almost as bad....Anyway something that just pushes the problem elsewhere.

London is falling because demographics don't lie. You'll be pushed out eventually because you are the minority in London......probably when some more lefty than neo liberal government gets in.

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 13 Mar 19 7.11pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Has Nelson Mandela House had a lick of paint recently then?

just flammable cladding

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Mar 19 7.39pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by richard shaw (og)65

never existed , a south london stereotype by writers who didn't have a clue , only fools and horses never really reflected the south london i grew up in and live in .

So you never had stuff falling off the back of lorries in your area? This has been happening since the dockyards were big business.

No market traders or happy go lucky characters who either didnít have a job to Ďliveí or had stuff on plus collecting dole, with possibly lots of days spent in the pub or in and out of it, with some Ďbusinessí done there too?

There may not have been many people identical to Del boy or the other characters but there wouldíve been plenty who shared some of his lifestyle and characteristics.

 


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