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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 19 Mar 19 1.05pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Among other possible fiddlers, yes.....You know the entertainment industry....full of fine upstanding people.

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was that Among other possible fiddlers ? yes or no ? .....You may possibly know the entertainment industry ?....is it full of fine upstanding people ?

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 19 Mar 19 1.24pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

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was that Among other possible fiddlers ? yes or no ? .....You may possibly know the entertainment industry ?....is it full of fine upstanding people ?

Like many here I only have an understanding of human nature and how it motivates behaviour.

What do you think attracts people to the entertainment industry? Sexualisation is apart of the fame business.....Many people are desperate to gain a footing within that industry. Sexual exploitation by those who control a form of access is going to be a darker side to that when you have lots of young beautiful people.......If you constantly swim in the sea, eventually you get close to a shark.

As an example, you are going to get more sexual exploitation going on there than you are going to get in the administration department.....though perhaps people have some stories.

Personally I've of the view that the child stuff is rarer, but It must happen because the opportunities for exploitation are there.

I'd say that if I were putting my children forward for child acting I'd be watchful about it.

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 19 Mar 19 3.16pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

I think it runs deeper then "warped ideology".
I think people struggle with how modern british society has to accept customs and rituals that are at odds with our beliefs

With mass immigration comes an influx of all kinds of everything, but I do feel that religious ideology can be problematic. People come to rely on them more in times of stress and disconnection and it's hard to think of a more stressful and disconnected time than settling in a new country. If you have the wrong voices speaking in your eye of 'guiding you' at a time like that I do worry where it can lead.

That's in part why I don't view immigration as a right for anyone. A country, it's people rather than it's government, should be able to settle on a system based on vacancies we need to fill, not cheap labour by the million. Even if we turn a blind eye to additional stresses on society, housing, care and infrastructure, who actually financially benefits from these extra hours being put in? Corporations? Most likely. The average Joe? Not a jot.


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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 19 Mar 19 4.09pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

With mass immigration comes an influx of all kinds of everything, but I do feel that religious ideology can be problematic. People come to rely on them more in times of stress and disconnection and it's hard to think of a more stressful and disconnected time than settling in a new country. If you have the wrong voices speaking in your eye of 'guiding you' at a time like that I do worry where it can lead.

That's in part why I don't view immigration as a right for anyone. A country, it's people rather than it's government, should be able to settle on a system based on vacancies we need to fill, not cheap labour by the million. Even if we turn a blind eye to additional stresses on society, housing, care and infrastructure, who actually financially benefits from these extra hours being put in? Corporations? Most likely. The average Joe? Not a jot.


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Edited by dollardays (19 Mar 2019 3.17pm)

Spot on. Excellent post.

Just because something may or may not be good for the economy does not mean it's good for society.

 


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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 19 Mar 19 6.35pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Spot on. Excellent post.

Just because something may or may not be good for the economy does not mean it's good for society.

Thank you, Tom.

I've been to countries with vastly different levels of investment and I can't say the living conditions have ever bothered me that much. People just get on with life. In the UK immense wealth is already built in anyway, so it comes down to allocation of resources more than anything.

That's an additional Brexit factor, the idea sold by politicians for decades that increasing GDP means we're all much more prosperous now and living it up now. Tens of millions looked to their own lives and considered that wealth may well have been going into someones coffers, but it certainly wasn't theirs.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 19 Mar 19 10.56pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Some people have been arrested for hate crimes by commenting negativly and praising this freako who shot these poor people.
Now ok if they have then they deserve everything they get but surely naming them straight away is wrong.
I thought you were innocent until proven guilty in a court of law so until proven i thought you remained as a suspect and a number ; or has the law changed and are we setting a precident.
Alternatively is it only a hate crime that has different rules?

 

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View Sir James Hird's Profile Sir James Hird Flag Mount Martha 20 Mar 19 5.41am Send a Private Message to Sir James Hird Add Sir James Hird as a friend

Huge respect for New Zealand their prime minister and people for their humanity and care for the victims and families from the horrible incident last Friday.
Their have been heroes confronting the gunman unarmed and all manner of examples of how a community can come together when it has to.
Janice Ardern I respect you. Runs a country, had her first child last year and confronted this horrible incident. What a leader!

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Mar 19 7.03am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Sir James Hird

Janice Ardern I respect you.

Is that Jacinda's sister?

 

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View Sir James Hird's Profile Sir James Hird Flag Mount Martha 20 Mar 19 11.14am Send a Private Message to Sir James Hird Add Sir James Hird as a friend

Get a life sunshine, a genuine mistake, I am sure she wont mind but it seems to bother you./

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Is that Jacinda's sister?

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Mar 19 2.59pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Sir James Hird

Get a life sunshine, a genuine mistake, I am sure she wont mind but it seems to bother you./

No need to behave like a dork just because you've not got a sense of humour

 

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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 20 Mar 19 3.07pm Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Some people have been arrested for hate crimes by commenting negativly and praising this freako who shot these poor people.
Now ok if they have then they deserve everything they get but surely naming them straight away is wrong.
I thought you were innocent until proven guilty in a court of law so until proven i thought you remained as a suspect and a number ; or has the law changed and are we setting a precident.
Alternatively is it only a hate crime that has different rules?

I don't remember that ever being the case. Unless under 18 or by order of the court, suspects are always named.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Mar 19 3.22pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

I feel sorry for the poor lawyer that has to defend him as I doubt whether anyone wants the job

 

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