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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 20 Jun 19 12.13pm

I don't think the wealth divide or lack of equality is necessarily bad for society.

What if we had everything taken away from us and were all poor. We would certainly then have an equal society but that’s not really the answer.

I think in some way society flourishes by inequality, using it as motivation for social mobility and a force to make people work harder to improve the life of themselves and their families.

The problem is, we all compare ourselves to those around us. If the average working man of today who has a car, flat, gas central heating, kitchen appliances, phone etc compared himself to a lord of 400 years ago the working man would have a fantastic life.
The problem is we are always comparing ourselves to those around us. To quote Gore Vidal “ Every time a friend succeeds, I die a little”

Inequality is not the problem, there will always be inequality, it’s to do with fairness and the ability for all sections of society to be able to move forward in life should they choose to.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Jun 19 12.52pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Well, for a while I believe income gaps started to close. Now they are accelerating apart. So what will happen to those who have less, and indeed less than their forebears?

Come on Maple. You are looking at this from the perspective of one lifetime. The vast majority of us are far better off than we ever were in the past.

Sadly, things won't stay that way into the future.

If there is one thing that will increasingly erode our living standards, it is overpopulation. That is forcing up the cost and availability of housing and will soon have an effect on mortality as the NHS folds under the pressure.

Technology might improve our comfort but the greedy globalists will not even allow us to get future free energy for free.


 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Jun 19 3.14pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

the class system never went away, lords, monarchs, u and non-U, the plebs play footy the toffs play wugger so we have yobs who can't break out of a working class idiom (hello jesse Lingard) and hooray henrys with delusions of grandeur both ignorant in their own way so we have to get foreigners with an educated attitude in to up our game, all us and them, it's why we don't have any industry and trade massively at a deficit apart from financial invisibles, who needs brains when you can be posh, enlightened thinking is only for the elite hence our unstoppable decline to being a third world country. rant over

You dont like foreigners; you old xenphobe you.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Jun 19 3.20pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Come on Maple. You are looking at this from the perspective of one lifetime. The vast majority of us are far better off than we ever were in the past.

Sadly, things won't stay that way into the future.

If there is one thing that will increasingly erode our living standards, it is overpopulation. That is forcing up the cost and availability of housing and will soon have an effect on mortality as the NHS folds under the pressure.

Technology might improve our comfort but the greedy globalists will not even allow us to get future free energy for free.


We are mortal?!
The way good health is being rammed at us to live longer, it's a wonder your point about over population causing the aformentioned issues hasn't been spotted by the guys in charge.
But then again all they need to do is move the retirement age forward for income.
80 will be the new 50

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Jun 19 3.55pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

If the average working man of today who has a car, flat, gas central heating, kitchen appliances, phone etc compared himself to a lord of 400 years ago the working man would have a fantastic life.

You don't have to go that far back as even in the fifties the average working man didn't have a car or a phone and the annual summer holiday would have been in a B&B in Southend

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Jun 19 4.27pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

You don't have to go that far back as even in the fifties the average working man didn't have a car or a phone and the annual summer holiday would have been in a B&B in Southend

Sarfend.

 

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jeeagles Flag 20 Jun 19 4.41pm

Blaming it on the class system seems like an easy get out.

Growing up I saw some of my friend parents always have the new cars, fancy holidays, the latest TV's, designer cloths. There's nothing wrong with this, but they were generally the ones who didn't get money from their parents for deposits.

In my 20's I had friends who didn't go to uni as they didn't want to sacrifice a few years being poor, went travelling, got hire purchase cars etc. They are the ones who now can't afford houses.

Lot's of my friends got deposits from their grandparents inheritance. But these were generally people of modest means.

I was round a friends house the other day, her dad was complaining that his daughter would never be able to save up for a deposit whilst sat in front of a TV that cost £6,000.

 

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Originally posted by jeeagles

Blaming it on the class system seems like an easy get out.

Growing up I saw some of my friend parents always have the new cars, fancy holidays, the latest TV's, designer cloths. There's nothing wrong with this, but they were generally the ones who didn't get money from their parents for deposits.

In my 20's I had friends who didn't go to uni as they didn't want to sacrifice a few years being poor, went travelling, got hire purchase cars etc. They are the ones who now can't afford houses.

Lot's of my friends got deposits from their grandparents inheritance. But these were generally people of modest means.

I was round a friends house the other day, her dad was complaining that his daughter would never be able to save up for a deposit whilst sat in front of a TV that cost £6,000.


I'd say it's a minority who don't properly help their progeny but there's a lot of truth in this.....seen it myself.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Jun 19 6.19pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

We are mortal?!
The way good health is being rammed at us to live longer, it's a wonder your point about over population causing the aformentioned issues hasn't been spotted by the guys in charge.
But then again all they need to do is move the retirement age forward for income.
80 will be the new 50

Overpopulation is about birth rate, not mortality. You can only die once.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Jun 19 6.27pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You can only die once.

Unless you are John Snow

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 20 Jun 19 7.09pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

You don't have to go that far back as even in the fifties the average working man didn't have a car or a phone and the annual summer holiday would have been in a B&B in Southend

Which is entirely to do with improved access to cars, phones and travel - it’s nothbing to do with wealth inequality.

The average man in the fifties could buy a house on an average salary - the fact phones and holidays have got cheaper doesn’t even come close to offsetting that.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Jun 19 7.34pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Overpopulation is about birth rate, not mortality. You can only die once.

But we live longer than we did 25 years ago when the calcs on expenditure were probably made.
I get more babies but again technology has enabled many who would not survive to now survive.
Those two factors added to a forced longevity of life create the issues highlighted.

 

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