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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 29 Jun 19 12.45pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Lennon and McCartney were a gift to many of us. As song writers, while they both are born from the same influences their styles evolved and were obviously shaped by their different characters as is true for any creative expression. McCartney was always the more productive of the two, the most musically and commercially driven. He wrote four of the most covered songs in history. [Link] No 9 Blackbird No 5 And I love her (Lennon wrote the middle eight 'a love like ours, could never die, as long as I have you near me') No 3 Eleanor Rigby (Lennon helped with some lyrics) No 1 Yesterday Lennon wrote one, 'Imagine' which sits at No 7. However, personally McCartney had/has a tendency to often be too mawkish for me.......Nothing wrong with the odd overly sentiment song but...frigging hell he wrote a lot of them. Lennon wasn't as consistently lovey dovey and was darker, which personally I prefer. My favourite Beatle song is his, 'Hey Bulldog'......I'd say in my personal list of favourite Beatle songs he shades it. It's also true of their post Beatle stuff....McCartney continued to write all time classics, Band on the Run, Jet, Coming Up, Live and Let Die and of course he went on much longer for obvious reasons but I think that while Lennon wrote less, he shaded it....Imagine, Woman, Working Class Hero, Starting Over, Jealous Guy. However, choosing between these two giants seems a little trite. They both wrote so many standards. However, if it came down to who I'd have rather dived under the covers with between Linda and Yoko.....All I can say is 'Lennon, so much thanks for the genius....but you fecking weirdo!' Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jun 2019 10.50am) Good post sir. Huge fan myself and pretty much agree with all the above although would swap Hey Bulldog for pretty much anything of Rubber Soul. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 29 Jun 19 12.45pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Lennon and McCartney were a gift to many of us.

As song writers, while they both are born from the same influences their styles evolved and were obviously shaped by their different characters as is true for any creative expression.

McCartney was always the more productive of the two, the most musically and commercially driven.

He wrote four of the most covered songs in history.

[Link]

No 9 Blackbird
No 5 And I love her (Lennon wrote the middle eight 'a love like ours, could never die, as long as I have you near me')
No 3 Eleanor Rigby (Lennon helped with some lyrics)
No 1 Yesterday

Lennon wrote one, 'Imagine' which sits at No 7.

However, personally McCartney had/has a tendency to often be too mawkish for me.......Nothing wrong with the odd overly sentiment song but...frigging hell he wrote a lot of them.

Lennon wasn't as consistently lovey dovey and was darker, which personally I prefer.

My favourite Beatle song is his, 'Hey Bulldog'......I'd say in my personal list of favourite Beatle songs he shades it.

It's also true of their post Beatle stuff....McCartney continued to write all time classics, Band on the Run, Jet, Coming Up, Live and Let Die and of course he went on much longer for obvious reasons but I think that while Lennon wrote less, he shaded it....Imagine, Woman, Working Class Hero, Starting Over, Jealous Guy.

However, choosing between these two giants seems a little trite. They both wrote so many standards.

However, if it came down to who I'd have rather dived under the covers with between Linda and Yoko.....All I can say is 'Lennon, so much thanks for the genius....but you fecking weirdo!'

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jun 2019 10.50am)

Good post sir.

Huge fan myself and pretty much agree with all the above although would swap Hey Bulldog for pretty much anything of Rubber Soul.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Stirlingsays 29 Jun 19 1.52pm
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle Good post sir. Huge fan myself and pretty much agree with all the above although would swap Hey Bulldog for pretty much anything of Rubber Soul. I think that's their best album....I'd say their weakish was 'Beatles for Sale' their fourth ....but that still blows most out of the water with 'No Reply' (Lennon) and 'Eight days a Week' (Mostly McCartney...but one of the exceptions where the main songwriter doesn't sing the lead). Many would say their worst was 'Yellow Submaine' but I'm not going to regard it as a proper album because it only had two new songs on it and they didn't even voice the cartoon. Here endeth my Beatle nerd thoughts. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jun 2019 1.54pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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29 Jun 19 1.52pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Good post sir.

Huge fan myself and pretty much agree with all the above although would swap Hey Bulldog for pretty much anything of Rubber Soul.

I think that's their best album....I'd say their weakish was 'Beatles for Sale' their fourth ....but that still blows most out of the water with 'No Reply' (Lennon) and 'Eight days a Week' (Mostly McCartney...but one of the exceptions where the main songwriter doesn't sing the lead).

Many would say their worst was 'Yellow Submaine' but I'm not going to regard it as a proper album because it only had two new songs on it and they didn't even voice the cartoon.

Here endeth my Beatle nerd thoughts.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jun 2019 1.54pm)

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 29 Jun 19 4.21pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Lennon and McCartney were a gift to many of us. As song writers, while they both are born from the same influences their styles evolved and were obviously shaped by their different characters as is true for any creative expression. McCartney was always the more productive of the two, the most musically and commercially driven. He wrote four of the most covered songs in history. [Link] No 9 Blackbird No 5 And I love her (Lennon wrote the middle eight 'a love like ours, could never die, as long as I have you near me') No 3 Eleanor Rigby (Lennon helped with some lyrics) No 1 Yesterday Lennon wrote one, 'Imagine' which sits at No 7. However, personally McCartney had/has a tendency to often be too mawkish for me.......Nothing wrong with the odd overly sentiment song but...frigging hell he wrote a lot of them. Lennon wasn't as consistently lovey dovey and was darker, which personally I prefer. My favourite Beatle song is his, 'Hey Bulldog'......I'd say in my personal list of favourite Beatle songs he shades it. It's also true of their post Beatle stuff....McCartney continued to write all time classics, Band on the Run, Jet, Coming Up, Live and Let Die and of course he went on much longer for obvious reasons but I think that while Lennon wrote less, he shaded it....Imagine, Woman, Working Class Hero, Starting Over, Jealous Guy. However, choosing between these two giants seems a little trite. They both wrote so many standards. However, if it came down to who I'd have rather dived under the covers with between Linda and Yoko.....All I can say is 'Lennon, so much thanks for the genius....but you fecking weirdo!' Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jun 2019 10.50am) Now then.... The list is not definitive. It's "some" of the most covered songs in history, and it's not in order either. It seems a fairly random selection, actually. The three most covered Beatles songs, in descending order, are: 1. Yesterday 2. Something 3. Here Comes The Sun 2 and 3 are George Harrison songs, with virtually zero input from either Lennon or McCartney. They also would certainly both be in the overall top ten of "most covered", certainly ahead of Blackbird and And I Love Her. Speaking as an out and out Beatles fan, I'd also make the following observations: Much as I love Lennon, I, controversially it's true, think Imagine is one of the most dismal, dirge-like piles of bollocks mixed with shyte ever devised by mankind. The Shaved Fish compilation is Lennon at his absolute best (bar Imagine, obviously) and blows away McCartney at his solo peak. To classify Coming Up and Live and Let Die as great is an abomination. They're ok, but that's about it. Macca also never improved on Band On The Run. Sorry, but he didn't. Don't get me wrong, Lennon/Macca was one of those serendipitous partnerships that one only sees perhaps once in a lifetime, complementing each other almost to perfection - Macca took a lot of the excess acid out of Lennon's songs in much the same way as Lennon added a harder and tougher edge to Macca's compositions. Nowhere is this demonstrated more effectively than in A Day in the Life. Both produced a lot of memorable stuff after the split but it's so obvious that each very sorely missed the other. Best Album? Revolver or Abbey Road, probably, the latter for the sheer genius of the segue on side 2, the former for, well, it's collectively just a work of total fcking genius. Would love to have an argument with you and others on this subject, Stirling. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham*
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Clapham on the Back 29 Jun 19 4.21pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Lennon and McCartney were a gift to many of us.

As song writers, while they both are born from the same influences their styles evolved and were obviously shaped by their different characters as is true for any creative expression.

McCartney was always the more productive of the two, the most musically and commercially driven.

He wrote four of the most covered songs in history.

[Link]

Lennon wrote one, 'Imagine' which sits at No 7.

However, personally McCartney had/has a tendency to often be too mawkish for me.......Nothing wrong with the odd overly sentiment song but...frigging hell he wrote a lot of them.

Lennon wasn't as consistently lovey dovey and was darker, which personally I prefer.

My favourite Beatle song is his, 'Hey Bulldog'......I'd say in my personal list of favourite Beatle songs he shades it.

However, choosing between these two giants seems a little trite. They both wrote so many standards.

However, if it came down to who I'd have rather dived under the covers with between Linda and Yoko.....All I can say is 'Lennon, so much thanks for the genius....but you fecking weirdo!'

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jun 2019 10.50am)

Now then....

The list is not definitive. It's "some" of the most covered songs in history, and it's not in order either. It seems a fairly random selection, actually. The three most covered Beatles songs, in descending order, are:

1. Yesterday
2. Something
3. Here Comes The Sun

2 and 3 are George Harrison songs, with virtually zero input from either Lennon or McCartney. They also would certainly both be in the overall top ten of "most covered", certainly ahead of Blackbird and And I Love Her.

Speaking as an out and out Beatles fan, I'd also make the following observations:

Much as I love Lennon, I, controversially it's true, think Imagine is one of the most dismal, dirge-like piles of bollocks mixed with shyte ever devised by mankind.

The Shaved Fish compilation is Lennon at his absolute best (bar Imagine, obviously) and blows away McCartney at his solo peak. To classify Coming Up and Live and Let Die as great is an abomination. They're ok, but that's about it. Macca also never improved on Band On The Run. Sorry, but he didn't.

Don't get me wrong, Lennon/Macca was one of those serendipitous partnerships that one only sees perhaps once in a lifetime, complementing each other almost to perfection - Macca took a lot of the excess acid out of Lennon's songs in much the same way as Lennon added a harder and tougher edge to Macca's compositions. Nowhere is this demonstrated more effectively than in A Day in the Life.

Both produced a lot of memorable stuff after the split but it's so obvious that each very sorely missed the other.

Best Album? Revolver or Abbey Road, probably, the latter for the sheer genius of the segue on side 2, the former for, well, it's collectively just a work of total f*cking genius.

Would love to have an argument with you and others on this subject, Stirling.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 29 Jun 19 4.34pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Now then.... The list is not definitive. It's "some" of the most covered songs in history, and it's not in order either. It seems a fairly random selection, actually. The three most covered Beatles songs, in descending order, are: 1. Yesterday 2. Something 3. Here Comes The Sun 2 and 3 are George Harrison songs, with virtually zero input from either Lennon or McCartney. They also would certainly both be in the overall top ten of "most covered", certainly ahead of Blackbird and And I Love Her. Speaking as an out and out Beatles fan, I'd also make the following observations: Much as I love Lennon, I, controversially it's true, think Imagine is one of the most dismal, dirge-like piles of bollocks mixed with shyte ever devised by mankind. The Shaved Fish compilation is Lennon at his absolute best (bar Imagine, obviously) and blows away McCartney at his solo peak. To classify Coming Up and Live and Let Die as great is an abomination. They're ok, but that's about it. Macca also never improved on Band On The Run. Sorry, but he didn't. Don't get me wrong, Lennon/Macca was one of those serendipitous partnerships that one only sees perhaps once in a lifetime, complementing each other almost to perfection - Macca took a lot of the excess acid out of Lennon's songs in much the same way as Lennon added a harder and tougher edge to Macca's compositions. Nowhere is this demonstrated more effectively than in A Day in the Life. Both produced a lot of memorable stuff after the split but it's so obvious that each very sorely missed the other. Best Album? Revolver or Abbey Road, probably, the latter for the sheer genius of the segue on side 2, the former for, well, it's collectively just a work of total f*cking genius. Would love to have an argument with you and others on this subject, Stirling. Now that’s a post! Have never seen you say so much. I can challenge you in the super fan stakes though, having even named my son Lennon! "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 29 Jun 19 4.34pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Now then....

1. Yesterday
2. Something
3. Here Comes The Sun

Speaking as an out and out Beatles fan, I'd also make the following observations:

Much as I love Lennon, I, controversially it's true, think Imagine is one of the most dismal, dirge-like piles of bollocks mixed with shyte ever devised by mankind.

Both produced a lot of memorable stuff after the split but it's so obvious that each very sorely missed the other.

Best Album? Revolver or Abbey Road, probably, the latter for the sheer genius of the segue on side 2, the former for, well, it's collectively just a work of total f*cking genius.

Would love to have an argument with you and others on this subject, Stirling.

Now that’s a post!

Have never seen you say so much.

I can challenge you in the super fan stakes though, having even named my son Lennon!

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 29 Jun 19 4.53pm
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle Now that’s a post! Have never seen you say so much. I can challenge you in the super fan stakes though, having even named my son Lennon! Only ever managed to name a dog Lennon. The artist formerly known as Mrs Funt forcefully intervened in the child naming process. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 29 Jun 19 4.53pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Now that’s a post!

Have never seen you say so much.

I can challenge you in the super fan stakes though, having even named my son Lennon!

Only ever managed to name a dog Lennon. The artist formerly known as Mrs Funt forcefully intervened in the child naming process.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Stirlingsays 29 Jun 19 6.24pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Now then.... The list is not definitive. It's "some" of the most covered songs in history, and it's not in order either. It seems a fairly random selection, actually. The three most covered Beatles songs, in descending order, are: 1. Yesterday 2. Something 3. Here Comes The Sun 2 and 3 are George Harrison songs, with virtually zero input from either Lennon or McCartney. They also would certainly both be in the overall top ten of "most covered", certainly ahead of Blackbird and And I Love Her. Speaking as an out and out Beatles fan, I'd also make the following observations: Much as I love Lennon, I, controversially it's true, think Imagine is one of the most dismal, dirge-like piles of bollocks mixed with shyte ever devised by mankind. The Shaved Fish compilation is Lennon at his absolute best (bar Imagine, obviously) and blows away McCartney at his solo peak. To classify Coming Up and Live and Let Die as great is an abomination. They're ok, but that's about it. Macca also never improved on Band On The Run. Sorry, but he didn't. Don't get me wrong, Lennon/Macca was one of those serendipitous partnerships that one only sees perhaps once in a lifetime, complementing each other almost to perfection - Macca took a lot of the excess acid out of Lennon's songs in much the same way as Lennon added a harder and tougher edge to Macca's compositions. Nowhere is this demonstrated more effectively than in A Day in the Life. Both produced a lot of memorable stuff after the split but it's so obvious that each very sorely missed the other. Best Album? Revolver or Abbey Road, probably, the latter for the sheer genius of the segue on side 2, the former for, well, it's collectively just a work of total f*cking genius. Would love to have an argument with you and others on this subject, Stirling. An excellent post....even if your low ball opinion of 'Live and Let Die' deserves a full page apology in the Times. Some good points about the list and Harrison. As for 'Imagine'....I can see how it can be viewed as a bit of a dirge....for me its most irritating aspect is the wide eyed lyrical preachy idealism that occasionally grates on me....especially when some use it after terror attacks. It's only a song though and it's still a classic ....blows raspberry! And for those weeping for the abuse afforded to the much maligned 'Coming Up'....(in truth the video adds to it) [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jun 2019 9.50pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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29 Jun 19 6.24pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Now then....

1. Yesterday
2. Something
3. Here Comes The Sun

Speaking as an out and out Beatles fan, I'd also make the following observations:

Much as I love Lennon, I, controversially it's true, think Imagine is one of the most dismal, dirge-like piles of bollocks mixed with shyte ever devised by mankind.

Both produced a lot of memorable stuff after the split but it's so obvious that each very sorely missed the other.

Best Album? Revolver or Abbey Road, probably, the latter for the sheer genius of the segue on side 2, the former for, well, it's collectively just a work of total f*cking genius.

Would love to have an argument with you and others on this subject, Stirling.

An excellent post....even if your low ball opinion of 'Live and Let Die' deserves a full page apology in the Times.

Some good points about the list and Harrison.

As for 'Imagine'....I can see how it can be viewed as a bit of a dirge....for me its most irritating aspect is the wide eyed lyrical preachy idealism that occasionally grates on me....especially when some use it after terror attacks.

It's only a song though and it's still a classic ....blows raspberry!

And for those weeping for the abuse afforded to the much maligned 'Coming Up'....(in truth the video adds to it)

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Jun 2019 9.50pm)

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 30 Jun 19 2.06pm
Interesting article in the New York Times. [Link] Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Interesting article in the New York Times.

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 30 Jun 19 2.13pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Interesting article in the New York Times. [Link] Now then, Now Then Bender!! Pro USA & Israel
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Interesting article in the New York Times.

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Now then, Now Then Bender!!

Pro USA & Israel

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After much deliberation I'm going to have to go with 'The Best of The Beatles' as my favourite Beatles album.
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After much deliberation I'm going to have to go with 'The Best of The Beatles' as my favourite Beatles album.

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Hrolf The Ganger 30 Jun 19 3.36pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Now then.... The list is not definitive. It's "some" of the most covered songs in history, and it's not in order either. It seems a fairly random selection, actually. The three most covered Beatles songs, in descending order, are: 1. Yesterday 2. Something 3. Here Comes The Sun 2 and 3 are George Harrison songs, with virtually zero input from either Lennon or McCartney. They also would certainly both be in the overall top ten of "most covered", certainly ahead of Blackbird and And I Love Her. Speaking as an out and out Beatles fan, I'd also make the following observations: Much as I love Lennon, I, controversially it's true, think Imagine is one of the most dismal, dirge-like piles of bollocks mixed with shyte ever devised by mankind. The Shaved Fish compilation is Lennon at his absolute best (bar Imagine, obviously) and blows away McCartney at his solo peak. To classify Coming Up and Live and Let Die as great is an abomination. They're ok, but that's about it. Macca also never improved on Band On The Run. Sorry, but he didn't. Don't get me wrong, Lennon/Macca was one of those serendipitous partnerships that one only sees perhaps once in a lifetime, complementing each other almost to perfection - Macca took a lot of the excess acid out of Lennon's songs in much the same way as Lennon added a harder and tougher edge to Macca's compositions. Nowhere is this demonstrated more effectively than in A Day in the Life. Both produced a lot of memorable stuff after the split but it's so obvious that each very sorely missed the other. Best Album? Revolver or Abbey Road, probably, the latter for the sheer genius of the segue on side 2, the former for, well, it's collectively just a work of total f*cking genius. Would love to have an argument with you and others on this subject, Stirling. It's hard not to love Sgt Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour but Revolver, Rubber Soul and Help are all exceptional and Abbey Road and the 'White album' are occasionally brilliant. Why choose? It's interesting that both McCartney's and Lennon's arguably best solo work is terribly recorded given the fine quality of the Beatles work. Band on the Run was recorded in Africa and the studio was clearly substandard, and Imagine likewise displays sloppy low quality production. A pity in hindsight.
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Now then....

1. Yesterday
2. Something
3. Here Comes The Sun

Speaking as an out and out Beatles fan, I'd also make the following observations:

Much as I love Lennon, I, controversially it's true, think Imagine is one of the most dismal, dirge-like piles of bollocks mixed with shyte ever devised by mankind.

Both produced a lot of memorable stuff after the split but it's so obvious that each very sorely missed the other.

Best Album? Revolver or Abbey Road, probably, the latter for the sheer genius of the segue on side 2, the former for, well, it's collectively just a work of total f*cking genius.

Would love to have an argument with you and others on this subject, Stirling.

It's hard not to love Sgt Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour but Revolver, Rubber Soul and Help are all exceptional and Abbey Road and the 'White album' are occasionally brilliant.

Why choose?

It's interesting that both McCartney's and Lennon's arguably best solo work is terribly recorded given the fine quality of the Beatles work.

Band on the Run was recorded in Africa and the studio was clearly substandard, and Imagine likewise displays sloppy low quality production.

A pity in hindsight.

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Did everything ever produced by 2 Unlimited get incinerated too by any chance?
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Did everything ever produced by 2 Unlimited get incinerated too by any chance?

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