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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 09 Mar 20 3.50pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger


I don't particularly care about pushing up the table. I want to give some youngsters some game time in preparation for next season.

Who in particular?

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag Kent 09 Mar 20 3.54pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Who in particular?

All of them, give them all a run out!

 


Here's to you the famous red and blue.....

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View scuffy's Profile scuffy Flag orpington 09 Mar 20 4.06pm Send a Private Message to scuffy Add scuffy as a friend

We are on track for our record Premier League points total for the second season running, a magnificent achievement. Why in the world would you want to sacrifice that?

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

I don't particularly care about pushing up the table. I want to give some youngsters some game time in preparation for next season.

 

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View scuffy's Profile scuffy Flag orpington 09 Mar 20 4.07pm Send a Private Message to scuffy Add scuffy as a friend

How is rescuing us from certain promotion in his first season, hitting a record Premier League points total in his second and being on track to do it again in his third not doing a remarkable job? What's your definition of remarkable?

Originally posted by jeeagles

I think some are getting ahead of themselves about Roy doing a remarkable job.

He's done ok. He's won the last 3 games 1-0. Going into them we would have expected to win the two home games and Brighton are on terrible form.

I think Roy pays too much attention to goal difference. We've dropped a lot of points where we havent attacked teams at 1-0 down.


Will be interesting to see if he tries to push us up the table now that we are safe, or will he keep playing 3 holding midfielders?

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 09 Mar 20 4.39pm Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

With the squad that we have, I think it's wise to think about how we are going to sustain our run in the PL.

Record points total doesn't really mean anything unless we end up in europe, but with our limited squad size do we really want that? I'm not sure...(but blooding youngsters does not necessarily mean this dream is over)

So in the interest of looking beyond this season.. I think we should give some kids, like pierrick, or Woods, or some other player (I don't profess to know every player in our Academy) some games. One of them may show he can step up.

I realise the owners that be want us to be further up the table, to get the extra millions that will offer and this is probably be the way we will go. Parish and Co will parade this season as a glorious success and spunk over the gaping cracks in the squad for another year.

We have a rebuilding job to do this summer. RH is not going to be here much longer to keep steadying the ship. We need to start planning for his departure by building a decent youthful squad for the next manager to work with.
And Now we find ourselves in a position which we do not normally find ourselves in - Virtually safe with games to spare.
Lets use it to get a head start on next years recruitment. Give some youngsters a go. Give our ageing players a rest! Whats the worst that will happen - none will prove themselves good enough, we lose a bit of position money. But we will know categorically they are not good enough. Or perhaps they prove they are good enough, and we don't need to buy a (costly) replacement.

Game time and Confidence helps youngsters transition to the first team. We have an opportunity to give them this experience, risk free.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 09 Mar 20 4.43pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Sorry Neillo.... you're just a better palace fan than I am.

Come on, you can do better than that !

Seriously, I do get frustrated with the constant nit picking and seeming lack of appreciation for the job Hodgson is doing and the circumstances the club are in.

Roy has his faults, but overall I think he's doing an excellent job.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Mar 20 4.52pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Come on, you can do better than that !

Seriously, I do get frustrated with the constant nit picking and seeming lack of appreciation for the job Hodgson is doing and the circumstances the club are in.

Roy has his faults, but overall I think he's doing an excellent job.

Neillo

I am wholeheartedly in agreement with you.

Hodgson has been tarred and feathers by some, however he has met his objective of keeping us in the PL with a limited outlay of funds.I fully appreciate the job he has done at our club and delighted he has signed a contract extension.

Edited by Willo (09 Mar 2020 4.52pm)

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Mar 20 5.25pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

How has the value of Benteke and Zaha gone down, because of Roy. Benteke is getting on to 30, so his value will fall, the value of Zaha is what we put on him, not what the market thinks, as nobody has bid anywhere near our value.
We have had some very good transfer windows, bar January with Ayew, Guaita, Cahill, McCarthy and Kouyate picked up for total £15m, all now regulars in the team that have maintained our Premier status.

Benteke is worth virtually nothing now. We couldnít give him away. Strikers will always be worth money if they score. The football tactics have had an effect on Benteke. Not all, but the tactics have. He was fine until Allardyce left and since itís gone wrong.

Your theory of valuation is incredibly naive. Try selling your house for 100% more than what anyone anywhere will pay for it. That will not be the value of your house but your fantasy, same for Zaha.

My points on pur transfers was that weíre not signing any flair or creative players and might struggle to with our tactics, or the ones we have havenít featured/been successful or again donít fit in with the tactics. Danny Murphy paid out what Roy was all about several times when Roy joined Palace what Roy does and Roy likes but what Iím saying is itís not all without underlying issues and problems to surface n future.

Roy has achieved above and beyond the target in the end this season but it doesnít come without things to consider for Parish and Freedman with Roy, if they do or can tolerate each other for long enough.

 


COYP

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Mar 20 5.29pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Pete53

The odd one might get a game from the bench but otherwise it's very unlikely. Firstly, Roy/SP will want to go on picking up points and will not consider weakening the side in the interests of giving youngsters a run out. There is more cash to be earned as you climb the table.

Secondly, it would mean dropping players who have got us into he position we are in, which would be a bit unfair on them.

Unless we have another injury crisis, or we have a youngster who is too precociously talented to ignore, I'm afraid youth will not be getting much of a look in.

But what about the blocking of our academy talent Parish spoke about during that in house interview? Lol lol

 


COYP

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Mar 20 5.33pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

With the squad that we have, I think it's wise to think about how we are going to sustain our run in the PL.

Record points total doesn't really mean anything unless we end up in europe, but with our limited squad size do we really want that? I'm not sure...(but blooding youngsters does not necessarily mean this dream is over)

So in the interest of looking beyond this season.. I think we should give some kids, like pierrick, or Woods, or some other player (I don't profess to know every player in our Academy) some games. One of them may show he can step up.

I realise the owners that be want us to be further up the table, to get the extra millions that will offer and this is probably be the way we will go. Parish and Co will parade this season as a glorious success and spunk over the gaping cracks in the squad for another year.

We have a rebuilding job to do this summer. RH is not going to be here much longer to keep steadying the ship. We need to start planning for his departure by building a decent youthful squad for the next manager to work with.
And Now we find ourselves in a position which we do not normally find ourselves in - Virtually safe with games to spare.
Lets use it to get a head start on next years recruitment. Give some youngsters a go. Give our ageing players a rest! Whats the worst that will happen - none will prove themselves good enough, we lose a bit of position money. But we will know categorically they are not good enough. Or perhaps they prove they are good enough, and we don't need to buy a (costly) replacement.

Game time and Confidence helps youngsters transition to the first team. We have an opportunity to give them this experience, risk free.

I agree with this. One good season can easily be followed by a very bad one, especially when our games are tight score lines which to some extent weíve been fortunate with this season.

 


COYP

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View johnmcormick8's Profile johnmcormick8 Flag Brundish 09 Mar 20 5.46pm Send a Private Message to johnmcormick8 Add johnmcormick8 as a friend

Go on smile you know it makes sense

 

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View pssguy's Profile pssguy Flag 09 Mar 20 6.21pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Our young players may not be good enough but it is pretty damning on the development at the club that we have just one player, Brandon Pierrick, who has appeared in the league for us this year who has been aged 21 or under. And he has appeared just once - as a late substitute

Man U have had 10 and Chelsea 11, respectively; and it's not as though they have not had points to fight for

 

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