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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 21 Jul 19 6.02pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


The club has been poorly run at the end of the day the amount of money we should have compared to what we see is shocking really.

I would like to know how much was spent on all this new stand stuff i bet it was an awful lot for a project that was never going to happen.

what does size have to do with anything you build your brand which is what matters Palace has not advanced in this area we have US owners yet not really had a dent in that country which is poor.

We don't even appear to sell shirts or other merch outside club shops.

Edited by grumpymort (21 Jul 2019 5.54pm)

Yeah, itís been total sh1t the last six years. Weíll never compete with the plastics on the world merchandising stage thank god.
Still an FA Cup final and turning most of the so called big teams over including Liverpool and Chels several times has been a total waste of time.

 

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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Yeah, itís been total sh1t the last six years. Weíll never compete with the plastics on the world merchandising stage thank god.
Still an FA Cup final and turning most of the so called big teams over including Liverpool and Chels several times has been a total waste of time.


what has that got to do with club being run poorly on a finance basis nothing.

idiotic comments so you would rather the club not expand because if they do it means their is loads of plastics attached to it.

yes fa cup final which we lost and yes we beat some big teams so has other in this league but what does that matter if you achieve nothing.

we should of progressed as a club not just the playing squad everything from fan base numbers to facilities yet we sell a player for 50m and all we bring in is players that are championship level other clubs don't want.

Edited by grumpymort (22 Jul 2019 1.39am)

 

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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Wow, what a naive post. Weíre not a mid table team. We spend 33 games in the bottom 4-6. We pick up more points vs teams in flip flops at end of the season.

How many players have jumped to join us in recent summers then? Or have we all imagined West Ham and whoever else nicking our targets, hence why we keep a close shop.

Youíre leaving the possibility of Luka leaving for nothing, after you sad lyrical about how players are falling over themselves to join us. Not only is it illogical but if we were that well run we would get and have everything in order to encourage him to stay. Itís also bad business.

Finally you donít seem to understand that free agents can negotiate higher wages because theyíre, erm, free, with no transfer fee cost.

Wow and you call my post naive. If itís that easy to pick up the points that put us mid table at the end of the season then why arenít all the other teams in the bottom half doing it? I donít go for this flip flop thing, there is too much money at stake in the modern game to give away points. Maybe last game of the season if there is nothing on it but £1.6m per place in the league is a good incentive to accumulate points.

As for players not wanting to join us, there are 3 leagues below us full of players who would kill to have a chance of playing in the EPL. There are players there who could step up a level but we just do not appear capable of finding them either in this country or another.

As for how you interpret that I donít understand what happens at the end of contracts from my post is beyond me, but if thatís what you feel like posting then itís your prerogative.

 

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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 22 Jul 19 8.45am Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Wow and you call my post naive. If itís that easy to pick up the points that put us mid table at the end of the season then why arenít all the other teams in the bottom half doing it? I donít go for this flip flop thing, there is too much money at stake in the modern game to give away points. Maybe last game of the season if there is nothing on it but £1.6m per place in the league is a good incentive to accumulate points.

As for players not wanting to join us, there are 3 leagues below us full of players who would kill to have a chance of playing in the EPL. There are players there who could step up a level but we just do not appear capable of finding them either in this country or another.

As for how you interpret that I donít understand what happens at the end of contracts from my post is beyond me, but if thatís what you feel like posting then itís your prerogative.

If you watch West Ham, the definitely play in flip flops come April and May, even their own fans think this and they say it how it is!

 

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Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Wow and you call my post naive. If itís that easy to pick up the points that put us mid table at the end of the season then why arenít all the other teams in the bottom half doing it? I donít go for this flip flop thing, there is too much money at stake in the modern game to give away points. Maybe last game of the season if there is nothing on it but £1.6m per place in the league is a good incentive to accumulate points.

As for players not wanting to join us, there are 3 leagues below us full of players who would kill to have a chance of playing in the EPL. There are players there who could step up a level but we just do not appear capable of finding them either in this country or another.

As for how you interpret that I donít understand what happens at the end of contracts from my post is beyond me, but if thatís what you feel like posting then itís your prerogative.

Itís £1.9 mil per place.

Teams do wind down. Itís that psychological factor thatís tough to break.

You said on Luka... ĎIf Luka thinks he is worth £100k a week then lets see if someone will pay it on top of a transfer fee. He is good, he is our captain, but he is replaceable.í

Fvckin Ďell, we think Dougie Freedman is bad. Youíd have us playing League 2 football within 4 years.

Youíd just let Luka run his contract down because you think he wonít get £100k without a transfer fee? Jesus. You do realise that no transfer fee means less costs at buying club that theyíre willing to pay more wages per week over the length of the contract? And you want to play a 6-9 month game of poker to see who blinks first? Ha ha ha, hilarious if it wasnít so damaging. Heís an asset worth £20-30 million and youíd be okay with losing that.

Yes there are players in levels below whoíd die for the opportunity but they are calculated risks because you will sign some failures. Weíve gone for the more costly guaranteed because in the past it avoided the risk of those failures stuck in our squad on higher wages than we could offload them to their correct level for. Weíve also attempted to save money in August but inevitably spent more time on experienced in January to guarantee more our Prem safety. Weíre now suffering from it because the money has run dry or we havenít sold many players at all.

The prime example of a club at our league level recruiting promising players is Bournemouth, but look at how much money the club has been losing, operating beyond FFP levels and being fined for it, even if the Russian owner couldnít care less.

I shouldíve just ignored your post when you posted we should let Luka run his contract down (Ďsee if he can get £100k elsewhere Ď).

He either signs or we sell. Hopefully he signs in 2 weeks after being content that weíre not self destructing.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (22 Jul 2019 9.30am)

 


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Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

If you watch West Ham, the definitely play in flip flops come April and May, even their own fans think this and they say it how it is!

You canít see it through red and blue tinted specs. Then all summer we hear Ďmid table clubí before spending 8 months of the season in the bottom 5-6.

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort


what has that got to do with club being run poorly on a finance basis nothing.

idiotic comments so you would rather the club not expand because if they do it means their is loads of plastics attached to it.

yes fa cup final which we lost and yes we beat some big teams so has other in this league but what does that matter if you achieve nothing.

we should of progressed as a club not just the playing squad everything from fan base numbers to facilities yet we sell a player for 50m and all we bring in is players that are championship level other clubs don't want.

Edited by grumpymort (22 Jul 2019 1.39am)

Your jumping the gun a bit there, we haven't bought in any players yet except a No3 goalie

 

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Originally posted by ARGILE OLD GEEZER

Your jumping the gun a bit there, we haven't bought in any players yet except a No3 goalie

Ayew as well

 

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Originally posted by grumpymort

Ayew as well

Now youíre definitely jumping the gun

Edited by monkey (22 Jul 2019 10.45am)

 

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Originally posted by grumpymort

Ayew as well

We haven't signed Ayew yet; he's still at Swansea.

 


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One of the reasons that we have financial constraints is that we have overspent in the last few years both in terms of fees paid for players and the wages we have paid them. we did not have the income to buy £30 million players and pay wages in excess of 100k pw particularly when at least one of our high earners is not earning his wages with his performances. I accept that TV revenue has gone up considerably but because of these past expenses we still can not spend recklessly

The result of this was we had to sell AWB to have some financial freedom. The fact we have sold him now means we do not have to sell wilf unless we get the right offer.

I think if a buyer came in offering a fair price for Benteke or Sakho we would look at taking it. Obviously they would have to want to move.

We need to stregthen the squad overall but also need to balance the books. We have cut our wage bill with the release of some fringe players however until we see who arrives and their wages the amount of spare money is unknown. I suspect Luka's contract extension has been discussed and an offer probably made. He may have accepted we do not know remember Jimmy Mac last year.

The expansion of the ground will probably happen at some point and if it does we would get more income and obviously that will help. However SP was more interested in creating a singing section than sorting out the ground planing application

 

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Originally posted by Palace in the Blood

One of the reasons that we have financial constraints is that we have overspent in the last few years both in terms of fees paid for players and the wages we have paid them. we did not have the income to buy £30 million players and pay wages in excess of 100k pw particularly when at least one of our high earners is not earning his wages with his performances. I accept that TV revenue has gone up considerably but because of these past expenses we still can not spend recklessly

The result of this was we had to sell AWB to have some financial freedom. The fact we have sold him now means we do not have to sell wilf unless we get the right offer.

I think if a buyer came in offering a fair price for Benteke or Sakho we would look at taking it. Obviously they would have to want to move.

We need to stregthen the squad overall but also need to balance the books. We have cut our wage bill with the release of some fringe players however until we see who arrives and their wages the amount of spare money is unknown. I suspect Luka's contract extension has been discussed and an offer probably made. He may have accepted we do not know remember Jimmy Mac last year.

The expansion of the ground will probably happen at some point and if it does we would get more income and obviously that will help. However SP was more interested in creating a singing section than sorting out the ground planing application

You a probably right, but is it too much to ask for the club to release a statement about these things, I understand not discussing transfer policy.

 

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