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View eritheagle's Profile eritheagle Flag Erith 28 Aug 19 8.15am Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

Originally posted by ARGILE OLD GEEZER

You could have the best players in the league, but if the coaches are rubbish, apart from defending tactics, it wont get you results.

Except maybe the odd win at Old Trafford, the Etihad, the Emirates and Wolves!

 

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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 28 Aug 19 8.21am Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

The thing is the slow pass it about at the back crap football , seems to be running through the whole squad, they must be being told to play like this at home, which is a joke considering our home form.
Saturday will be the same sleep inducing style of play, with marginally better individuals.

I was in a box in the Whitehorse and Luka, pva , guitia, Sakho etc were in the boxes either side of us, was actually surprised how interested they were in watching the match. Guitia looked pissed right off with the performance and when Hennessey tried to give them a couple of goals by playing hospital balls out from the back, he actually looked concerned for his mate.
Second half I spent most of the time looking at their wives/girlfriends.

 

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View leejaneagles's Profile leejaneagles Flag 28 Aug 19 8.23am Send a Private Message to leejaneagles Add leejaneagles as a friend

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Woods - one of the only positives from tonight' by Midlands Eagle

Why would we play Woods in an unfamiliar position in his 3rd professional match rather than swapping Kelly who began his career as a rightback and has played for England in that position. That seems like a stupid mistake.

I'm thinking with the fact Cahill come on to replace him at half-time, Roy didn't want to start either of the current first choice CB's but due to injuries, had to split them over a cup game rather than leave them both out entirely.

So he was probably thinking it's less likely for Kelly to get injured and significantly less running to play at CB for 45 minutes than right-back for 90.

I'd make a comment about the sorry state of our squad that this is the case but to be fair this is one position we generally have cover for, can't really plan for Tomkins, Dann and Sakho to all be injured, it's actually lucky we still have Kelly and Cahill.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 28 Aug 19 8.54am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

The buck has to stop with the manager who insists on this rigid way of playing even when we’re playing fourth division opposition.
We can’t even claim that we were unlucky.
Hodgson won’t take responsibility and in the post match interview refers to the players failure to ‘create or take chances’ as if this was a new problem in the home games.
Yes he hasn’t been backed in the market , but it doesn’t help when he plays players out of position ( Meyer,Woods,Riedewald) and two immobile strikers that are never going to work together.
The apologists for Hodgson will say what options dis he have?
To me that just lets Hodgson off the hook
We should be able to put out a team to comfortably beat a fourth division at home.
Without the league cup where are the squad players now going to get first team game time?

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 28 Aug 19 8.58am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

The buck has to stop with the manager who insists on this rigid way of playing even when we’re playing fourth division opposition.
We can’t even claim that we were unlucky.
Hodgson won’t take responsibility and in the post match interview refers to the players failure to ‘create or take chances’ as if this was a new problem in the home games.
Yes he hasn’t been backed in the market , but it doesn’t help when he plays players out of position ( Meyer,Woods,Riedewald) and two immobile strikers that are never going to work together.
The apologists for Hodgson will say what options dis he have?
To me that just lets Hodgson off the hook
We should be able to put out a team to comfortably beat a fourth division at home.
Without the league cup where are the squad players now going to get first team game time?


They might get a game or two in the FA Cup, before we go out to the likes of Harry the Hornet.

 


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View serial thriller's Profile serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 28 Aug 19 9.05am Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Originally posted by ARGILE OLD GEEZER

You could have the best players in the league, but if the coaches are rubbish, apart from defending tactics, it wont get you results.

Since February only City and the Scousers have got more points than us in the league. And we don't exactly have the best players in the league...

 


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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 28 Aug 19 9.17am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

Since February only City and the Scousers have got more points than us in the league. And we don't exactly have the best players in the league...

all very true, but alas it is the home form that concerns us all, we can't even score at home against a L2 side with a 27mil striker playing who seems to have forgotten how to score, this squad is very poor and parish is the one to blame!

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 28 Aug 19 9.26am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

The definition of a good manager is getting the best out available resources .
Where does leave Hodgson when you look at our home performances last season and this season?
The squad is good apart from a few gaps.
I acknowledge we’ve had some terrific away wins playing the ‘Hodgson way’ but surely he should have discovered a more successful template which works at home by now.
Can I suggest we play with a quicker tempo, more forward passes, commit more players into the opposition half/penalty area, improve and introduce variety into set piece delivery.
All this can be done without sacrificing defensive stability.

 

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View Pigglelet's Profile Pigglelet Flag Deepest Darkest Sussex 28 Aug 19 9.38am Send a Private Message to Pigglelet Add Pigglelet as a friend

We did play like we didn't want to be in this competition and I wonder if that might be part of the thinking.

Edited by Pigglelet (28 Aug 2019 9.39am)

 


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View peterg's Profile peterg Flag Anerley 28 Aug 19 10.04am Send a Private Message to peterg Add peterg as a friend

Very worrying to lose to a lower-division side like this. When possible relegation candidates do this, it is often a bad sign.

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 28 Aug 19 10.22am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by peterg

Very worrying to lose to a lower-division side like this. When possible relegation candidates do this, it is often a bad sign.

A large number of Premier clubs down the years have lost to lower league opposition, it’s nothing new.

It’s the romance of cup competitions.

 

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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 28 Aug 19 10.26am Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by Pigglelet

We did play like we didn't want to be in this competition and I wonder if that might be part of the thinking.

Edited by Pigglelet (28 Aug 2019 9.39am)

With the obvious limitations in filling some positions, it could be we are better off, maybe need to concentrate on getting points in the league.
This isn’t Roys fault ,any more than experienced ,expensive ,professionals , not being able to conjure up a goal against 4th division opposition , can be his fault. The fact that they have had careers already leaning how it’s done, reflects on them , not who they work for. Nobody sends them out to not do the job.

 

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