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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well he's certainly a rich man.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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Randy will face a civil sex case trial-his lawyers have lost the appeal- get out the popcorn!

 

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Originally posted by croydon proud

Randy will face a civil sex case trial-his lawyers have lost the appeal- get out the popcorn!

So it is about the money then!
Are you sure that tart isn't a cricketer

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

So it is about the money then!
Are you sure that tart isn't a cricketer

I have no idea if the innocent child victim was in to cricket- but I know a man who might!

 

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Originally posted by croydon proud

I have no idea if the innocent child victim was in to cricket- but I know a man who might!

What the innocent 17 year old similar to one you were possibly smashing. Was she not innocent?

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

What the innocent 17 year old similar to one you were possibly smashing. Was she not innocent?

Whos that then? You still got her number?

 

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It's noteworthy that a white teenager trafficked by a notorious white pedo is posited to be some kind of sexually crazed tart. Night and day compared to the grooming thread here. It's as if those in this horrendous case can't be further used to push a specific demographic dislike and so are viewed in a more off hand or nonplussed light. That is not to say by the way that there aren't specific issues in said cultures. All should be pursued without fear or favour, but like these crimes in many or most contexts they often are not.

Whatever people think of this girl (opportunist or whatever) the wider context is that Epstein and Maxwell were luring in young children to be coerced into sex with adult men and she was caught up in that. When we diminish her, it's important to realise that to an extent we do the same with those victims too.

Whether it's culturally or religiously based, high society exploitation, or childrens homes, the overriding factor in all of these instances is that it almost always goes on for an unbelievable amount of time before anyone is held to account. Sometimes that's due to powerful institutions hushing it up, or wildly misplaced cultural sensitivities, others a culture of silence. Certainly also a level of mental disconnect too with decent people just not wanting to accept that it takes place so mentally reframing it as something else or attributing a level of blame to the victims.


Edited by BlueJay (13 Jan 2022 1.55am)

 

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Originally posted by BlueJay

It's noteworthy that a white teenager trafficked by a notorious white pedo is posited to be some kind of sexually crazed tart. Night and day compared to the grooming thread here. It's as if those in this horrendous case can't be further used to push a specific demographic dislike and so are viewed in a more off hand or nonplussed light. That is not to say by the way that there aren't specific issues in said cultures. All should be pursued without fear or favour, but like these crimes in many or most contexts they often are not.

Whatever people think of this girl (opportunist or whatever) the wider context is that Epstein and Maxwell were luring in young children to be coerced into sex with adult men and she was caught up in that. When we diminish her, it's important to realise that to an extent we do the same with those victims too.

Whether it's culturally or religiously based, high society exploitation, or childrens homes, the overriding factor in all of these instances is that it almost always goes on for an unbelievable amount of time before anyone is held to account. Sometimes that's due to powerful institutions hushing it up, or wildly misplaced cultural sensitivities, others a culture of silence. Certainly also a level of mental disconnect too with decent people just not wanting to accept that it takes place so mentally reframing it as something else or attributing a level of blame to the victims.


Edited by BlueJay (13 Jan 2022 1.55am)

Amazing post!

 


Vive le Roy!

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Originally posted by BlueJay

It's noteworthy that a white teenager trafficked by a notorious white pedo is posited to be some kind of sexually crazed tart. Night and day compared to the grooming thread here. It's as if those in this horrendous case can't be further used to push a specific demographic dislike and so are viewed in a more off hand or nonplussed light. That is not to say by the way that there aren't specific issues in said cultures. All should be pursued without fear or favour, but like these crimes in many or most contexts they often are not.

Whatever people think of this girl (opportunist or whatever) the wider context is that Epstein and Maxwell were luring in young children to be coerced into sex with adult men and she was caught up in that. When we diminish her, it's important to realise that to an extent we do the same with those victims too.

Whether it's culturally or religiously based, high society exploitation, or childrens homes, the overriding factor in all of these instances is that it almost always goes on for an unbelievable amount of time before anyone is held to account. Sometimes that's due to powerful institutions hushing it up, or wildly misplaced cultural sensitivities, others a culture of silence. Certainly also a level of mental disconnect too with decent people just not wanting to accept that it takes place so mentally reframing it as something else or attributing a level of blame to the victims.


Edited by BlueJay (13 Jan 2022 1.55am)

Yup

And remember the Shirley Oaks victims are getting money. So they were all tarts?

 

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Originally posted by Mapletree

Yup

And remember the Shirley Oaks victims are getting money. So they were all tarts?

The difference being they haven't all signed off years ago and accepted money. This girl did.
That's what it is now all about.
I'm sure a few grand will alleviate the emotional stress she's going through though. Capitalist cow!

 

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Personally, I'm not willing to openly judge either party in this without all of the evidence. Not that it is going to matter in the US courts, frankly. The full evidence will probably never come out but expect some sensationalist books over the next few years.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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Originally posted by cryrst

The difference being they haven't all signed off years ago and accepted money. This girl did.
That's what it is now all about.
I'm sure a few grand will alleviate the emotional stress she's going through though. Capitalist cow!

Not true

They were given a small payment but are fighting for more

She signed an agreement with Epstein that could not include vague allusions to unnamed others with any authority. She has no agreement with PA and became riled when he totally disrespected her experience and refuted what is likely to prove to be largely true.

 

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