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View Bill E Pilgrim's Profile Bill E Pilgrim Flag New Addington 08 Nov 19 5.13pm Send a Private Message to Bill E Pilgrim Add Bill E Pilgrim as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yeah, but these activists only care about the lies when the other side does it.

Both of them were given jobs by the government is the key.

People also say Johnson is unfit...and they are on his side

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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 08 Nov 19 5.17pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

I certainly live in an alternative universe to you, Hrolf. It's a universe where opinion is evidence Based

Yeah evidence based - Woooaaa Crazzy!!!!

Its full of stuff like this:

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and this

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So your evidence is left wing articles or "research projects"?

I don't know [Link] but you just have to look at the front page to know what way it leans politically.

The LSE is well known to be very left wing and you just have to look at the bios of the people that wrote that study.

No facts. All bollocks.

 

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View Bill E Pilgrim's Profile Bill E Pilgrim Flag New Addington 08 Nov 19 5.23pm Send a Private Message to Bill E Pilgrim Add Bill E Pilgrim as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

What bollox. The BBC spends a lot of time covering royal events because the public like to see them which is hardly promoting deference and as regards deflecting scrutiny of state crimes I already posted a few days ago that I thought that the BBC went over the top in their continued questioning of the Prime Minister as to whether he had an affair with Jennifer Acuri

I don't think the MSM's `Man of the People' Boris de Pfeffel Johnson's love life a state crime - unless the population is forced to watch a video of it.


 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 08 Nov 19 5.24pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

It could be that JC has put himself front and centre to be criticised.
You can fool some of the people and all that.
No smoke without fire.
He was proud to shag a black woman, so much so that he showed his mates as a badge of honour type of thing, while she was in bed allegedly.
Clearly his self righteousness about equality wasnt about when he was younger.
Otherwise it was just a woman you think.
morality has ; on the front face changed somewhat but leopards dont change their spots.

 

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View Bill E Pilgrim's Profile Bill E Pilgrim Flag New Addington 08 Nov 19 5.33pm Send a Private Message to Bill E Pilgrim Add Bill E Pilgrim as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the same Jeremy Corbyn who de-platforms anybody who says stuff he disagrees with ?


not exactly a democrat, is he ?

Johnson tried to shut down parliament and took the whip away from moderate Tories. Not exactly a democrat is he.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Nov 19 5.36pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

Johnson tried to shut down parliament and took the whip away from moderate Tories. Not exactly a democrat is he.

You are Nick Gussett.

Do I get a prize?

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 08 Nov 19 5.54pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

Johnson tried to shut down parliament and took the whip away from moderate Tories. Not exactly a democrat is he.

There were some who'd already been deselected by their associations.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 08 Nov 19 6.06pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

The press should be disregarded.

It is nothing more than a constant stream of conservative party invective presented as facts.

Gone are the days when people always had the Telegraph or similar under their arm, that publication has descended into a tabloid right wing rag.

The best thing I ever did must be not taking a daily paper, I discovered how to think for myself.


 

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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 08 Nov 19 6.22pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

The press should be disregarded.

It is nothing more than a constant stream of conservative party invective presented as facts.

Gone are the days when people always had the Telegraph or similar under their arm, that publication has descended into a tabloid right wing rag.

The best thing I ever did must be not taking a daily paper, I discovered how to think for myself.


I think you will find a damn sight more facts and evidence in the Telegraph than you would find in the Guardian.

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 08 Nov 19 6.39pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

The press should be disregarded.

It is nothing more than a constant stream of conservative party invective presented as facts.

Gone are the days when people always had the Telegraph or similar under their arm, that publication has descended into a tabloid right wing rag.

The best thing I ever did must be not taking a daily paper, I discovered how to think for myself.


A paper is only as good as its journalists.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 08 Nov 19 7.09pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by chris123


A paper is only as good as its journalists.

I'm not so sure. I listen to the political editorial staff of The Sun and Mirror on Daily Politics and they all talk a lot of sense yet both newspapers are full of crap

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 08 Nov 19 7.15pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

Both of them were given jobs by the government is the key.

People also say Johnson is unfit...and they are on his side

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McDonald lied and was happy to give the impression people were being paid.

Governments of all colours have asked service of experienced individuals independent of their politics and frankly it's one of the few sensible things done.

When it comes to making a morality argument concerning truth telling amongst politicians.....come on, they all do it.

As for the criticisms made about Johnson by Hastings....well I think some of them are valid. However, the alternatives are awful.....Plus, Johnson has accepted some of these criticisms and is far more of a team player these days......There are heavyweights like Gove around him.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Nov 2019 7.30pm)

 

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