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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 09 Nov 19 10.50am Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

The world is run by the Jewish.

Everything, literally everything we see through the media is through the lens of a platform owned by Jews.

Facebook, YouTube, Google, practically every film studio and bank.

Do not underestimate their influence.

Edited by Tom-the-eagle (09 Nov 2019 10.51am)

 


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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 09 Nov 19 10.56am Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim


"No facts. All bollocks." is fake news `Trump for British PM' easy." Come on, stump up keyboard warrior. What evidence is wrong exactly?

No, I'm afraid it only works like that for the post modernist types who do their best to try and prove facts don't exists.

You state that "evidence" as a couple of articles from bias sources without actually pointing out any facts associated with them. They are in fact opinion pieces from clearly bias sources. It's up to you to prove otherwise.


Edited by W12 (09 Nov 2019 10.59am)

 

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Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim


"The politics that resulted from Marx has resulted in the biggest pile of human bones in history and those that it didn't murder it dragged into even worst poverty and starvation."

Well the communist have gone but the bodies are still piling up Stirling...what is to blame now?

Which bodies are we talking about here?

As Stirling pointed out there are communists regimes in every s***hole corner of the world and especially Africa.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 09 Nov 19 2.43pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

How on earth is it possible to find a balance that satisfies even the few ingredients of the ideological soup that you have identified?

The same way this is done legally and indeed on news networks around the world....competing versions.

Have your Newsnight, which pushes the neo liberal left lens onto the world and then have your right and left versions.

It's really not that difficult.


Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Nov 2019 7.37pm)

 

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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

The world is run by the Jewish.

Everything, literally everything we see through the media is through the lens of a platform owned by Jews.

Facebook, YouTube, Google, practically every film studio and bank.

Do not underestimate their influence.

Edited by Tom-the-eagle (09 Nov 2019 10.51am)

But what about Viz?

 

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View Bill E Pilgrim's Profile Bill E Pilgrim Flag New Addington 11 Nov 19 10.19pm Send a Private Message to Bill E Pilgrim Add Bill E Pilgrim as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

The most interesting part of this tedious diatribe is that the left genuinely believes that the BBC is pro Tory. With you right wingers holding the equally genuine opinion that the bias flows the other way you might argue that p1ssing both sides off in equal measure actually demonstrates balance.

There are quite a few articles from credible sources that provide evidence of the BBC bias against Jeremy Corbyn. The link below is an article in the Independent about a report by Media Reform Coalition and Birkbeck, University of London.

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View Bill E Pilgrim's Profile Bill E Pilgrim Flag New Addington 11 Nov 19 10.28pm Send a Private Message to Bill E Pilgrim Add Bill E Pilgrim as a friend

Originally posted by W12

Which bodies are we talking about here?

As Stirling pointed out there are communists regimes in every s***hole corner of the world and especially Africa.

...It's up to you to prove otherwise.

 

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View Bill E Pilgrim's Profile Bill E Pilgrim Flag New Addington 11 Nov 19 11.23pm Send a Private Message to Bill E Pilgrim Add Bill E Pilgrim as a friend

Originally posted by W12

Which bodies are we talking about here?

As Stirling pointed out there are communists regimes in every s***hole corner of the world and especially Africa.

What has killed more people: communism or capitalism?
Kind of gruesome game to play. But information is easily out there beyond the propaganda hold. Even if our press rely on people to suck up bulls*** and then watch some celebrity TV, anyone a bit curious can find other fact based information.


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The frame of the debate is set by our capitalist system. But poverty itself kills as does our intolerance of other systems and how they have to divert money from social programs to the the military to keep us capitalist wolves away from their door.


Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (11 Nov 2019 11.23pm)

Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (11 Nov 2019 11.39pm)

 

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Originally posted by W12

No, I'm afraid it only works like that for the post modernist types who do their best to try and prove facts don't exists.

You state that "evidence" as a couple of articles from bias sources without actually pointing out any facts associated with them. They are in fact opinion pieces from clearly bias sources. It's up to you to prove otherwise.


Edited by W12 (09 Nov 2019 10.59am)

The London School of Economics a biased source?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 11 Nov 19 11.53pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

When you look at the pile of bones it isn't even comparable. Communism deliberately set out to murder its opposition. Capitalism does have its pile but it's mainly via early neglect. though it had its short lived authoritarian regimes as well. However, modern day capitalism has had its fangs blunted via socialism and regulation.

If you want to attribute modern day deaths to capitalism today it's far more likely to be diabetes....its relative life expectancy is its testament.

Capitalism works because its focus is in rewarding competing entities that can successfully supply a need.....it works with the self interest part of human nature....that's incredibly successful.

Humans are inherently lazy....as in nature, everything reduces to its lowest energy state. Without motive, people aren't going to strive.

Communism fails because it treats humans like blank slates and ignores their aspirations and indeed punishes them.....essentially, unless there is the tyranny of forced labour or pain of death it creates the soviet saying, 'they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work'.

However, Marx and Engels correctly identified some of capitalism's exploitational flaws at a time when it was unregulated. (without having any good solutions)...Eventually unionist action resulted in eventual worker's rights and gradually forms of socialism led to the regulated capitalism that we have now in the west.

As has been stated, the welfare state, NHS, state education and other tax funded institutions are forms of socialism....though the concept of community funded endeavors isn't alien to capitalism.

However, as the youth have not been exposed to the failures of communism and its sister socialism as a governing force they form the vanguard of those who push for it today.

Yet socialism only works as a form of moral pressure upon capitalism.....By itself, as a governing force, it runs economies into the ground.

They know not what they do.


Edited by Stirlingsays (12 Nov 2019 2.18am)

 

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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 21 Nov 19 4.44pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Cronyism is the problem not capitalism.

If all you are doing is passing contracts between the people you play golf with, artificially setting prices based on monopolies or cartels and earning money but providing no value (e.g. asset stripping) it's actually a lot closer to rampant socialism than capitalism.

The job of government should be simply to protect it's citizens and borders and that includes the above.

 

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