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Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

Well the Labour manifesto is soon to be published. So look at it and then make your own mind up. They certainly wont be running on ditching workers rights.

I'm not the MSN. I'm not saying "It's between the commie and good old Boris" You probably get that I don't trust Boris and I like the "commie".

Just decide for yourself. What kind of country do you want to live in?

But one note of caution - most of the people who own the press don't actually live here. If things go bad they have already left.

Why does that matter? Corbyn doesnít live on a council estate but apparently knows whatís best for those who do.

 

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View Bill E Pilgrim's Profile Bill E Pilgrim Flag New Addington 09 Nov 19 12.07am Send a Private Message to Bill E Pilgrim Add Bill E Pilgrim as a friend

Originally posted by W12

So your evidence is left wing articles or "research projects"?

I don't know [Link] but you just have to look at the front page to know what way it leans politically.

The LSE is well known to be very left wing and you just have to look at the bios of the people that wrote that study.

No facts. All bollocks.


"No facts. All bollocks." is fake news `Trump for British PM' easy." Come on, stump up keyboard warrior. What evidence is wrong exactly?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 09 Nov 19 12.11am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend


Firstly saying that free market policies is responsible for deaths. Sure, in certain situations I'm aware of that.....However, compared to what other system?

The free market system has flaws but it has brought more people out of poverty and enabled more fat people than anything else you can think of.

Ah the Pinochet point, the mention of Pol Pot.

To say she 'supported' Pol Pot is a bit like saying I support rule by Putin compared to rule by China. You completely ignore context. Both Thatcher and Carter supported them against the Communists.

Pinochet was also fighting the communists.....He ended up giving away power to the democrats.....think of any communists who have done that?

You are referring to wars for control where we took sides. I can't and won't defend the actions of death squads and every innocent who died is a war crime.

War is...sanctioned murder.....It's only those who don't understand the reality who can think that it involves any form of actual justice.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Nov 2019 12.12am)

 

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View Bill E Pilgrim's Profile Bill E Pilgrim Flag New Addington 09 Nov 19 12.18am Send a Private Message to Bill E Pilgrim Add Bill E Pilgrim as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Why does that matter? Corbyn doesnít live on a council estate but apparently knows whatís best for those who do.

Whereas, on the other hand, Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson and Jacob Rees Mogg grew up on the New Addington Estate and were the midfield pairing for Castle Hill School.

In later years, I often used to love having a beer in the 'Bunkers with them and talking about how easy it was bringing up kids and getting by. Pfeffel bought an old sofa from me and stuck in in a garage in case his mistress popped by. Happy days.

 

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View Bill E Pilgrim's Profile Bill E Pilgrim Flag New Addington 09 Nov 19 12.25am Send a Private Message to Bill E Pilgrim Add Bill E Pilgrim as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Firstly saying that free market policies is responsible for deaths. Sure, in certain situations I'm aware of that.....However, compared to what other system?

The free market system has flaws but it has brought more people out of poverty and enabled more fat people than anything else you can think of.

Ah the Pinochet point, the mention of Pol Pot.

To say she 'supported' Pol Pot is a bit like saying I support rule by Putin compared to rule by China. You completely ignore context. Both Thatcher and Carter supported them against the Communists.

Pinochet was also fighting the communists.....He ended up giving away power to the democrats.....think of any communists who have done that?

You are referring to wars for control where we took sides. I can't and won't defend the actions of death squads and every innocent who died is a war crime.

War is...sanctioned murder.....It's only those who don't understand the reality who can think that it involves any form of actual justice.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Nov 2019 12.12am)

Utter twaddle. Thatcher support Pol Pot. She had them armed and trained by the SAS. Its uncomfortable but it is true. Everything else you say is just apology for a murder scumbag that your biased ideological anchored view will not stretch to another murdering scumbag.

You Stirling are just a goodies v baddies man.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 09 Nov 19 12.27am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

Utter twaddle. Thatcher support Pol Pot. She had them armed and trained by the SAS. Its uncomfortable but it is true. Everything else you say is just apology for a murder scumbag that your biased ideological anchored view will not stretch to another murdering scumbag.

You Stirling are just a goodies v baddies man.

How you got that from anything I said is beyond me.

I actually state why Thatcher and Carter supported Pol Pot and Pinochet and I gave context.

I stated I can't support death squads. These were wars for control and innocents were murdered.

You're just in your own little ideological bubble hearing what you want to hear.


Edited by Stirlingsays (09 Nov 2019 12.33am)

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 09 Nov 19 1.02am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

Whereas, on the other hand, Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson and Jacob Rees Mogg grew up on the New Addington Estate and were the midfield pairing for Castle Hill School.

In later years, I often used to love having a beer in the 'Bunkers with them and talking about how easy it was bringing up kids and getting by. Pfeffel bought an old sofa from me and stuck in in a garage in case his mistress popped by. Happy days.

And when have they ever claimed anything different? Viscount Stansgate didnít grow up in a pre-fab and Tony Blair went to one of the poshest schools in Scotland - why should it matter?

 

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View Bill E Pilgrim's Profile Bill E Pilgrim Flag New Addington 09 Nov 19 1.23am Send a Private Message to Bill E Pilgrim Add Bill E Pilgrim as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And when have they ever claimed anything different? Viscount Stansgate didnít grow up in a pre-fab and Tony Blair went to one of the poshest schools in Scotland - why should it matter?

It matters because the Tories claim they are against the "London Metropolitan elite" and parade as if they are the true representatives of working people.

They are at the the very centre of privilege. They have removed workers rights, environmental protection and food standards from the agreement with the EU because it will be cheaper to hire workers, sell crap food and ruin the environment. It maybe taking back control but not if you are a working person.

Meanwhile they can afford to eat the safe good stuff and live and bring their kids up in the clean safe places. The rest of us take the consequences.

Also the press barons do not live here but influence our laws. If things go wrong there are no come backs.
They have already left.



Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (09 Nov 2019 1.23am)

Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (09 Nov 2019 1.25am)

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 09 Nov 19 1.28am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

It matters because the Tories claim they are against the "London Metropolitan elite" and parade as if they are the true representatives of working people.

They are at the the very centre of privilege. They have removed workers rights, environmental protection and food standards from the agreement with the EU because it will be cheaper to hire workers, sell crap food and ruin the environment. It maybe taking back control but not if you are a working person.

Meanwhile they can afford to eat the safe good stuff and live and bring their kids up in the clean safe places. The rest of us take the consequences.

Also the press barons do not live here but influence our laws. If things go wrong there are no come backs.
They have already left.



Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (09 Nov 2019 1.23am)

Edited by Bill E Pilgrim (09 Nov 2019 1.25am)

The London metropolitan elite they are against is the Corbyn Islington cadre. Surely a Vonnegut fan can appreciate the irony.

 

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View Bill E Pilgrim's Profile Bill E Pilgrim Flag New Addington 09 Nov 19 1.32am Send a Private Message to Bill E Pilgrim Add Bill E Pilgrim as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Your commentary has been shown up as the weak nonsense it is and all you have is to shout 'Nazi'.

My family fought against Hitler and it just shows how far gone you are politically that you frame it like that.....For example, that you think my politics, which was far more similar to what Churchill believed in....That you think that is actually 'Sieg Hell'.

Inarticulate nonsense.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Nov 2019 11.53pm)

"The politics that resulted from Marx has resulted in the biggest pile of human bones in history and those that it didn't murder it dragged into even worst poverty and starvation."

Well the communist have gone but the bodies are still piling up Stirling...what is to blame now?

 

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Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

"The politics that resulted from Marx has resulted in the biggest pile of human bones in history and those that it didn't murder it dragged into even worst poverty and starvation."

Well the communist have gone but the bodies are still piling up Stirling...what is to blame now?

Communists have gone have they?

Mmmmm....I don't think they feel that way in Hong Kong and Venezuela.

In fact socialism runs most of South America and Africa.....and we can see how well that's going can't we.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 09 Nov 19 10.29am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Bill E Pilgrim

"The politics that resulted from Marx has resulted in the biggest pile of human bones in history and those that it didn't murder it dragged into even worst poverty and starvation."

Well the communist have gone but the bodies are still piling up Stirling...what is to blame now?

And which of the former Communist run countries would you have chosen to live in?

 

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