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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 22 Dec 19 10.18am Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

Originally posted by Pete53

Despite our a fairly healthy points total for this stage of the season I think we have been skating on thin ice. How many convincing performances have we put on this season? Even when we win it inevitably tends to be by a very narrow margin.

Okay, you might argue a win is a win so what's the issue? But, the trouble is, having a bit of success by scraping points with your backs to the wall can work for a while but you are only a couple of steps from things going the other way i.e against you.

The chances are we will scrape through again this season, but without some change in our player recruitment policy , coaching, game strategy and style of play, our luck will run out.

Edited by Pete53 (22 Dec 2019 9.59am)

Edited by Pete53 (22 Dec 2019 10.00am)

agree - the seeds are there for a Charlton, stoke or sunderland scenario - we need to ship out the deadwood and replace them with up and coming players to improve the squad and also make sure we haven't got costly duds if and when we do go down - the ownership issue doesn't help this nor does the hiatus with the new stand - a crunch is coming and SP will be having some very big decisions to make very soon.

 

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jeeagles Flag 22 Dec 19 10.19am

Roy is not performing miracles.
He's sucking the life out of the club.

We've got a team that can stay up fairly comfortably. We should have got 6 points from the last 3 games, but he stuck everyone behind the ball and we came away with 2.

He's got a well organised side, but individual skill levels seem to be deteriorating, too much pressure on our star player.

With the tactics, training, and refusal to play certain players it's no wonder that players we have want to leave, and player recruitment is difficult.

 

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View m/k mick's Profile m/k mick Flag milton keynes 22 Dec 19 10.45am Send a Private Message to m/k mick Add m/k mick as a friend

What really irks me is, we have been in the Premier now getting all this money and the ground is basically still the same, whilst teams around us have improved their grounds, even Fulham are building a new stand, i really thought our new stand would happen, but have serious doubts now, Roy is a good manager, we have good players, but our long term plans seem stuck

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 22 Dec 19 10.59am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Roy is not performing miracles.
He's sucking the life out of the club.

We've got a team that can stay up fairly comfortably. We should have got 6 points from the last 3 games, but he stuck everyone behind the ball and we came away with 2.

He's got a well organised side, but individual skill levels seem to be deteriorating, too much pressure on our star player.

With the tactics, training, and refusal to play certain players it's no wonder that players we have want to leave, and player recruitment is difficult.

And who are they then ? I'm only aware of one and that is Zaha.

And name a player that has rejected Palace because of the tactics and training ?

And you think we should have taken more points recently given our injury situation ?

Given the budget, or rather lack of, that Hodgson has to work with I would say he's doing a great job.

I'm not going to disagree about the way the team is set up, but he has a job to do - keep us in the Premier League. It appears that the ambition of the current ownership doesn't extend beyond that.

 


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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 22 Dec 19 11.01am Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Unless we fix our recruitment, we will end up like Sunderland. They overspent on ageing players, rarely if ever sold anyone for a profit, and eventually collapsed. We have got to create a balanced squad.

 

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View kev64's Profile kev64 Flag Cambs 22 Dec 19 11.12am Send a Private Message to kev64 Add kev64 as a friend

Originally posted by Bangell

Unless we fix our recruitment, we will end up like Sunderland. They overspent on ageing players, rarely if ever sold anyone for a profit, and eventually collapsed. We have got to create a balanced squad.

Thatís the holy grail, Iím sure our management team have a plan. But pretty sure zero ££.

But then you look at Brentford with a budget tiny compared to us that seem to have a scouting system and structure light years ahead.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Dec 19 11.19am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

And who are they then ? I'm only aware of one and that is Zaha.

And name a player that has rejected Palace because of the tactics and training ?

And you think we should have taken more points recently given our injury situation ?

Given the budget, or rather lack of, that Hodgson has to work with I would say he's doing a great job.

I'm not going to disagree about the way the team is set up, but he has a job to do - keep us in the Premier League. It appears that the ambition of the current ownership doesn't extend beyond that.

I concur with these sentiments.

Hodgson took over when the team was on it's knees to the extent that we lost the first 7 games without scoring a goal and he kept us up in his first season finishing 11th.

He has kept us competitive and secured survival despite a lack of support in the transfer window and whilst we all accept the football is unattractive and a hard watch,the ends have justified the means.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Dec 19 11.28am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by kev64

Thatís the holy grail, Iím sure our management team have a plan. But pretty sure zero ££.

But then you look at Brentford with a budget tiny compared to us that seem to have a scouting system and structure light years ahead.

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Oliie Watkins has received plaudits at Brentford, a £1.8 Mill signing from Exeter, but Said Benrahma whom they purchased for £1.5 Mill from Nice, is a player I have enjoyed watching.

Thomas Frank their manager got off to a torrid start when taking over from Dean Smith when the team were 7th, losing 7 of his first 10 games in charge, but Brentford stuck with him and it is paying dividends.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 22 Dec 19 12.09pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

A few years ago I remember Stoke had started to feel secure in the Premiership and wanted to play more attractive football.

We scored the goal that relegated them down to the Championship.

Hodgeson has been great for Palace.....and to play attacking attractive football you need the players....and for that you need the money and a seriously good coach.

People need to accept that Palace have been punching above our weight for years.....there are plenty of clubs with better grounds and clubs with higher attendances than us in the Championship.


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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 22 Dec 19 12.34pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Team wise no . We are more than comfortable in this division but do need to recruit younger upgrades rather than just younger or the same as what we have got .

My concerns would be at board level ,team investment and how much the club is being milked by the American investors

 

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View cpj's Profile cpj Flag Kent 22 Dec 19 12.36pm Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

agreed, we are fine, we will be fine.

hopefully we have another 2 years of roy at the helm.

God help us if that is the case - there will be nooone left watching by then!

 

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View cpj's Profile cpj Flag Kent 22 Dec 19 12.38pm Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I concur with these sentiments.

Hodgson took over when the team was on it's knees to the extent that we lost the first 7 games without scoring a goal and he kept us up in his first season finishing 11th.

He has kept us competitive and secured survival despite a lack of support in the transfer window and whilst we all accept the football is unattractive and a hard watch,the ends have justified the means.

Yes but three of those were with him in charge. FDB only lasted the first 4.

 

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