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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 23 Dec 19 12.28am Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

Having looked at this thread, i looked at the BBC report on Saturday's match. True to his word Roy had three academy players on the bench. By definition Academy players are in a lower league just like the Championship which has given the P L Sheffield United and Wolves, and a couple of useful young English Managers. The three on the bench must have impressed Roy, and need PL game time to develop. sadly Roy (unlike for the Bournemouth Match first (and only0 did a substitution at 86 minutes. Who knows what the result would have been had Meyer - on the field at 65 minutes been joined by two of the Academy bench members at 70 minutes. They might have shone as brightly as AWB did. COYP

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 23 Dec 19 5.58am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO


We can't make a start on the new stand without the funds to do it and all the permissions in place. If the Americans are pulling out then presumably their original investment, ring fenced for stadium developments, is no longer available

I no longer believe that guff about funding for stadium development being ring fenced as I don't think it was ever delivered. If there was ringfenced funding for any purpose it would show up in the accounts but nothing is there.

Substitute "promised" for "ringfenced" perhaps

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 23 Dec 19 6.24am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I no longer believe that guff about funding for stadium development being ring fenced as I don't think it was ever delivered. If there was ringfenced funding for any purpose it would show up in the accounts but nothing is there.

Substitute "promised" for "ringfenced" perhaps

Good post. Didn't believe a word of it at the time. Would be happy to be proved otherwise.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 23 Dec 19 8.39am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

At the sake of repetition, there is nothing to suggest this is anything other than a vanity project with some shiny powerpoint from an architect and possibly a lovely model in Steve P's office.

The broader question is do fans have a right to expect truthful full disclosure from owners and chairmen, I say not.

We like to think we do but we don't.

The CPFC2010 team is in a different position to many other owners/past owners as they did save the club from extinction.

That in the opinion of many makes them immune from criticism for ever. I am pleased for those from that group who managed to sell and make some money, well done and thanks for your part in the history of the club.

There is a fair bit of chat about the team " reaching the next level ". If we stop becoming perennial participants in the relegation dogfight then we will have reached a next level, and considering what Roy has had to work with in terms of inherited players and lack of cash to spend is something of a miracle in itself.

And, forget the new stand while current ownership structure in place.

If we have new owners in control with patience and pots of cash we might get some stadium development

Happy Xmas to all

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Good post. Didn't believe a word of it at the time. Would be happy to be proved otherwise.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 23 Dec 19 8.55am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

The CPFC2010 team is in a different position to many other owners/past owners as they did save the club from extinction.

That in the opinion of many makes them immune from criticism for ever. I am pleased for those from that group who managed to sell and make some money, well done and thanks for your part in the history of the club.

No one is immune from criticism in perpetuity; be eternally grateful by all means, but future actions must be judged on their merits, and not on the history, which, at best, can only provide mitigation for future mistakes.

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Dec 19 9.14am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

We are certainly on the path to having to replace a number of players who are either in their 30s or will be in 2020 :
PVA, Ward,Sakho,Cahill,Kelly,Dann,Kouyate,McArthur,McCarthy,Benteke.

An ageing squad and a rebuilding will be necessary but those listed above will not swell the coffers to any significant degree.

Edited by Willo (23 Dec 2019 9.29am)

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 23 Dec 19 10.06am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

We are certainly on the path to having to replace a number of players who are either in their 30s or will be in 2020 :
PVA, Ward,Sakho,Cahill,Kelly,Dann,Kouyate,McArthur,McCarthy,Benteke.

An ageing squad and a rebuilding will be necessary but those listed above will not swell the coffers to any significant degree.

Yes, unfortunately we've managed to get ourselves into a right Catch 22.

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 23 Dec 19 10.08am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

It might not be that long when we are in pitchy seas when we will not so much flounder but succumb to the tempest, each wave picking us up and hurtling us further from the shore.We will be creaking like the 'Mayflower' in a gale.

You will start up, we are doomed relegation forecasting soon. Toughest league in the world and we are 12th, a disaster is supporting teams like Stoke, who’s fans have put the whole team up for sale on eBay.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Dec 19 10.13am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

You will start up, we are doomed relegation forecasting soon. Toughest league in the world and we are 12th, a disaster is supporting teams like Stoke, who’s fans have put the whole team up for sale on eBay.

I have not used the words "Disaster" in terms of our prospects but I am reminded of the song "There may be trouble ahead".

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 23 Dec 19 10.19am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I no longer believe that guff about funding for stadium development being ring fenced as I don't think it was ever delivered. If there was ringfenced funding for any purpose it would show up in the accounts but nothing is there.

Substitute "promised" for "ringfenced" perhaps

Who knows...the answer I fancy is somewhere in Delaware.

 


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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 23 Dec 19 10.33am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

We are certainly on the path to having to replace a number of players who are either in their 30s or will be in 2020 :
PVA, Ward,Sakho,Cahill,Kelly,Dann,Kouyate,McArthur,McCarthy,Benteke.

An ageing squad and a rebuilding will be necessary but those listed above will not swell the coffers to any significant degree.

Edited by Willo (23 Dec 2019 9.29am)

An aging squad, an aging Manager, all in need of replacing in the not too distant future.

Edited by Jacey (23 Dec 2019 10.33am)

 

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View JohnB's Profile JohnB Flag 23 Dec 19 10.42am Send a Private Message to JohnB Add JohnB as a friend

Originally posted by Willo


PVA, Ward, Sakho, Cahill, Kelly, Dann, Kouyate, McArthur, McCarthy, Benteke.

That's got to be what? £600k a week's worth of wages combined? Value for money

 

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