Higher % of Black's excluded from schools in croyd
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 Stirlingsays  13 Feb 20 10.43am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
getting back to the OP, is there any IQ differences between the kids excluded and the kids who remain at school ? Lower impulse control is associated with lower intelligence. However, it's important to acknowledge that the majority of either won't find themselves in trouble. Some of the nicest kids aren't the sharpest and some of the brightest are the least nice....that also factors into traits like loyalty, honesty and reliability and so on. However, when it comes to who does the important jobs then meritocracy rather than pleasantness must rule.....You don't want 'Nice but Dim' flying your plane. So any concept that strays from pure merit like gender quotas or affirmative action are pure insanity. All this stuff was accepted as common knowledge and unremarkable just a couple of generations ago. However, the left have marched through the institutions and turned common sense upside down.....Now even the Tories talk this crap.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 13 Feb 20 1.27pm |
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Some practical help if your stuff is stolen Never heard of this hopefully it will come to Bromley and Croydon
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| Eaglecoops CR3 13 Feb 20 2.12pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Some practical help if your stuff is stolen Never heard of this hopefully it will come to Bromley and Croydon Loads of kids have been trying it. Apparently it doesn't help at all, but does taste a bit odd.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 13 Feb 20 2.23pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Lower impulse control is associated with lower intelligence. However, it's important to acknowledge that the majority of either won't find themselves in trouble. Some of the nicest kids aren't the sharpest and some of the brightest are the least nice....that also factors into traits like loyalty, honesty and reliability and so on. However, when it comes to who does the important jobs then meritocracy rather than pleasantness must rule.....You don't want 'Nice but Dim' flying your plane. So any concept that strays from pure merit like gender quotas or affirmative action are pure insanity. All this stuff was accepted as common knowledge and unremarkable just a couple of generations ago. However, the left have marched through the institutions and turned common sense upside down.....Now even the Tories talk this crap.
Or possibly a stronger fight/flight response, or would you be of the opinion that those with a stronger fight/flight response have lower intelligence. Is there a direct link? I know most of the knuckleheads I have met haven't been the sharpest tools in the box, but I also know some pretty intelligent ones. I do agree that common sense has gone right out of the window. Maybe once we are free from the restrictions of European Law then perhaps we will bring some common sense back into what is done in this country.
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| W12 13 Feb 20 2.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Lower impulse control is associated with lower intelligence. However, it's important to acknowledge that the majority of either won't find themselves in trouble. Some of the nicest kids aren't the sharpest and some of the brightest are the least nice....that also factors into traits like loyalty, honesty and reliability and so on. However, when it comes to who does the important jobs then meritocracy rather than pleasantness must rule.....You don't want 'Nice but Dim' flying your plane. So any concept that strays from pure merit like gender quotas or affirmative action are pure insanity. All this stuff was accepted as common knowledge and unremarkable just a couple of generations ago. However, the left have marched through the institutions and turned common sense upside down.....Now even the Tories talk this crap.
Hence down the rabbit hole we go. The alarming thing in recent months is that the anti white agenda has now hit the mainstream. Be it the usual David Lammy/Dianne Abbott overt partisanship for their own race (even if they are violent criminals), the new SAS advert rewriting European history or the tacit acceptance of people like Kehinde “Whiteness is a psychosis” Andrews as a talking head. That people can’t see where this is heading is a mystery to me. Why would white people *not* start to collectivise in such a hostile culture? Even relatively unpolitical “normies” cannot fail to notice all this. Yet the so called Conservative party continue to veer left for no obvious reason.
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| Stirlingsays 13 Feb 20 3.03pm |
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Originally posted by W12
Hence down the rabbit hole we go. The alarming thing in recent months is that the anti white agenda has now hit the mainstream. Be it the usual David Lammy/Dianne Abbott overt partisanship for their own race (even if they are violent criminals), the new SAS advert rewriting European history or the tacit acceptance of people like Kehinde “Whiteness is a psychosis” Andrews as a talking head. That people can’t see where this is heading is a mystery to me. Why would white people *not* start to collectivise in such a hostile culture? Even relatively unpolitical “normies” cannot fail to notice all this. Yet the so called Conservative party continue to veer left for no obvious reason. Totally agree. On Hol, we can broadly categorize the right into those who are still normies who think that the 'identity politics' genie can be put back into the bottle and common sense and meritocracy can reign again......all they need to do is to convince everyone to play fair. I sympathize with this mindset and came from this place myself. I have just realised over time that it won't work....it's like going through the five stages of grief, it can take years to de-programme from some egalitarian concepts that we were raised with.....because ultimately they will harm only ourselves....or more pointedly, our children. The number who admit to this are a much smaller subset of the right on Hol and so is a smaller group....Some will not agree publicly with some views for understandable reasons....But for the group that will we have come to see the writing on the wall and what the road we are riding on leads to. I've accepted that essentially politics are demographically led and that this won't change...... and that groups (excepting the Baizuo) vote overwhelmingly for their own in-group's interests. We have learned that identity politics is just a tool of gradual power removal and that it's a tool that isn't going to be put back in the shed. Hence, unless you play identity politics yourself you are bringing a rubber ducky to a knife fight and you are going to lose.....Indeed we see the political classes not even engaging in a struggle at the moment and choosing the route of filtered appeasement....as if that's going to work long term.. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Feb 2020 3.07pm)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 13 Feb 20 3.04pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Loads of kids have been trying it. Apparently it doesn't help at all, but does taste a bit odd. Now your giving my ideas how this could be used against criminals. Just spray it on them.
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| imashed surrey 13 Feb 20 3.49pm |
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Could also be that most of the senior schools Oasis schools whatever you call them now days ,the majority is now black kids.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Feb 20 5.32pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Totally agree. On Hol, we can broadly categorize the right into those who are still normies who think that the 'identity politics' genie can be put back into the bottle and common sense and meritocracy can reign again......all they need to do is to convince everyone to play fair. I sympathize with this mindset and came from this place myself. I have just realised over time that it won't work....it's like going through the five stages of grief, it can take years to de-programme from some egalitarian concepts that we were raised with.....because ultimately they will harm only ourselves....or more pointedly, our children. The number who admit to this are a much smaller subset of the right on Hol and so is a smaller group....Some will not agree publicly with some views for understandable reasons....But for the group that will we have come to see the writing on the wall and what the road we are riding on leads to. I've accepted that essentially politics are demographically led and that this won't change...... and that groups (excepting the Baizuo) vote overwhelmingly for their own in-group's interests. We have learned that identity politics is just a tool of gradual power removal and that it's a tool that isn't going to be put back in the shed. Hence, unless you play identity politics yourself you are bringing a rubber ducky to a knife fight and you are going to lose.....Indeed we see the political classes not even engaging in a struggle at the moment and choosing the route of filtered appeasement....as if that's going to work long term.. Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Feb 2020 3.07pm) This is the key point.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 14 Feb 20 9.42am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
This is the key point. You grab power by shaming weak-minded people away from speaking the truth. For example : what proportion of these excluded kids have an absentee dad ? And have largely been raised by the taxpayer ? 10% ? 90% ?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Feb 20 9.53am |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
You grab power by shaming weak-minded people away from speaking the truth. For example : what proportion of these excluded kids have an absentee dad ? And have largely been raised by the taxpayer ? 10% ? 90% ? Not sure on your point. And when you see the mother and family of dead stabbing victims they don’t appear to be prostitutes, living in ghettos in the USA before the zero tolerance policies in places like New York. An absent father doesn’t mean destitution, and these boys were all nice boys, which they may have been, when not in their gang. They all now know the likely outcomes of the choices they make. Information is all out there and with regards to schools, I doubt there’s no black teachers to tell them no qualifications means a s*** life, and that will be more the case in the future.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Feb 20 10.02am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Not sure on your point. And when you see the mother and family of dead stabbing victims they don’t appear to be prostitutes, living in ghettos in the USA before the zero tolerance policies in places like New York. An absent father doesn’t mean destitution, and these boys were all nice boys, which they may have been, when not in their gang. I'd agree with the general thrust of what you are saying. I'd add that if you are a child born into a dysfunctional environment....with the genes of parents who perhaps aren't the best role models in terms of ethics or striving. Then the most likely outcome will be that these children will repeat what their parents tell them rather than any teacher...black, white or whatever. It's just human nature. They have a whole commercial culture supporting anti social and victimization attitudes.....and a lot of white liberals in official positions supporting this culture as well. A lot of these children are fodder for this agenda and I'm not seeing any light at the end of that particular tunnel.
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