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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 02 Apr 20 7.31pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Eustace H. Plimsoll

Good God, man, you do realise that Cucking is on this thread??

In all seriousness, if I'm not missing an old ladies joke (there's every chance), I'm genuinely looking at all opportunities available that will allow me to keep afloat, so would be deeply appreciative of any offer to consider. (We're not completely dead just yet, but pretty much, and I can leave the trickle to be managed by others in the interim, if I do need to find consistent alternative income.)

Should I message you?

See? Maple's alright. Not had a single (non-sexual) offer from Stirling!

Good point re Cucking, thoughtless of me

Yup, pm me

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Elm Guest House 02 Apr 20 7.34pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

I refuse to even acknowledge what that c*nt says.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View Eustace H. Plimsoll's Profile Eustace H. Plimsoll Flag Aldershot 02 Apr 20 7.55pm Send a Private Message to Eustace H. Plimsoll Add Eustace H. Plimsoll as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Seriously fill out the universal credit on line.
A friend who is paye filled out with honest 41k salary and what he had ie house etc. Only thing he missed out for the dummy run was his bird lives with him. He would be entitled to £94 a week according to the website. He got the push to try from the martin Lewis website. Free to sign up and loads of tips on money saving. Interest free cards etc which is another way people in reality could get through this crisis as loads have 36 months term on interest free.
Sometimes you have to go with the now rather than the future.
I probably not a good model but my repo was 30 years ago. Nothing serious since and 7 years and my gaff is paid.

Solid advice, thanks, shall do as you suggest.

 


As a woman, I can step aside, or step up my game...

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 02 Apr 20 10.52pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Rule Britannia

When you have the Excel centre turned into a hospital for 4000 people in 2 weeks.
The NHS asks for 250k volunteers and gets a million.
A F1 team ( Mercedes ) joins forces with University College London and with in 100 hours produces a breathing aid.
James Dyson designed and is now producing ventilators in under 10 days.
This is what Britain is all about that's why we used to be called Great Britain.
Lets try not to go back to buying cheap s*** from China when this is all over.
Lets be more self sufficient and British !!!


Edited by Midlands Eagle (03 Apr 2020 5.58am)

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 02 Apr 20 11.35pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Or we could just try funding the NHS properly.

 


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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 03 Apr 20 12.35am Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

According to some we can all identify as having one if we want.

I wish we could all do that with virus testing kits.

Though to be honest, I'm with those who think we need to live with this within the best safety measures we can take.

We are committing war time spending for a virus when our debt levels were huge anyway....I'm not sure how that works.

How is this going to work out long time for the working man and women's mortgages and jobs? I have my fingers crossed.

Perhaps we can quantitatively-ease our way out of this? I don't know....but countries in the Euro like Spain and Italy are in a very different situation. The control of their money supply is in the hands of the European Central Bank.....No doubt they will 'ease' as well but we are going to see how that goes.


Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Apr 2020 7.36pm)

Essentially weíre in for another 10 years of austerity after this. Minimum. However as some like to think Ďthis is the beginning of the endí good luck with that. The system will survive at the expense of the commoner just like it always has for centuries. Millennia.

Anyway - onto the how is it going to affect the working man - one really interesting development coming out of this (and I do return to this often but only because itís just around the corner and alarming how little people are aware of the scope creep even today) companies are now front loading investment in automation and AI that they were previously punting further down the road. Debt and austerity should be the least of peopleís concerns - if you have young kids you need to think hard about the path they will need to take to go with rather than against the grain of work over the next 40 years.

It ainít going to be accounting thatís for sure. Itís not just the working man thatís in the firing line - the public school default job of choice will be no longer in the not very distant future. I should know. Iím working on the products that will create those job losses this very minute.

Finally the mass social and behavioural changes that will come out of this and last long after we Ďreturn to normalí are going to be fascinating to observe.

For example - how long will it take for people to not react immediately to a cough or sneeze with paranoia and or stigma. Or at best make a joke every time someone is ill?

Edited by SW19 CPFC (03 Apr 2020 12.37am)

 


said the rabid giraffe whilst brandishing his throbbing member of reason, and twas ever thus.

Did you know? 95% of people are morons.

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag 03 Apr 20 1.08am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

I loved my time with Palace. Home and away. Just not sure what the future holds now. I mean I just canít see crowds being something of the future. TV. Empty stadiums or vastly reduced crowds. Whatever I think big changes are next.

 

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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 03 Apr 20 1.30am Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Rule Britannia

When you have the Excel centre turned into a hospital for 4000 people in 2 weeks.
The NHS asks for 250k volunteers and gets a million.
A F1 team ( Mercedes ) joins forces with University College London and with in 100 hours produces a breathing aid.
James Dyson designed and is now producing ventilators in under 10 days.
This is what Britain is all about that's why we used to be called Great Britain.
Lets try not to go back to buying cheap s*** from China when this is all over.
Lets be more self sufficient and British !!!

We also need to recognise the value of people ... particularly, all our lower paid citizens who are working hard to keep the nation going.

Twelve years ago, we (the taxpayer) bailed out the Banks to the tune of tens of billions to keep them from going under. It would be nice to see some combined response from them to help out in this crisis. Payment holidays are only 3 deferred payments plus interest.

It would be wonderful to see more self suffiency and local initiatives to provide jobs here and to reduce our carbon footprint.

Great Britain will always be Great Britain because it refers to a land mass ... but I understand what you mean.

Edited by Henry of Peckham (03 Apr 2020 1.31am)

 


Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Essentially weíre in for another 10 years of austerity after this. Minimum. However as some like to think Ďthis is the beginning of the endí good luck with that. The system will survive at the expense of the commoner just like it always has for centuries. Millennia.

Anyway - onto the how is it going to affect the working man - one really interesting development coming out of this (and I do return to this often but only because itís just around the corner and alarming how little people are aware of the scope creep even today) companies are now front loading investment in automation and AI that they were previously punting further down the road. Debt and austerity should be the least of peopleís concerns - if you have young kids you need to think hard about the path they will need to take to go with rather than against the grain of work over the next 40 years.

It ainít going to be accounting thatís for sure. Itís not just the working man thatís in the firing line - the public school default job of choice will be no longer in the not very distant future. I should know. Iím working on the products that will create those job losses this very minute.

Finally the mass social and behavioural changes that will come out of this and last long after we Ďreturn to normalí are going to be fascinating to observe.

For example - how long will it take for people to not react immediately to a cough or sneeze with paranoia and or stigma. Or at best make a joke every time someone is ill?

Edited by SW19 CPFC (03 Apr 2020 12.37am)

A dive back into austerity is bound to be the response after these war time spending levels. I still have trouble accepting this pathway but hey tough t1tty I suppose, that's what has happened.

I don't think enough of the public at large really comprehend how much is being spent, they just hear, 'stay in to save lives', they aren't being told they are going to pay for it.

Do you really see the public at large accepting another non ending clamp down on spending?..... Surely they will vote in a much higher spending Labour party at the next election......What will that look like.

Perhaps the future for the UK is to be an economic Italy.

It's all rather depressing.

In terms to changes to social dynamics. I think you will see faster and more extensive balkanization by the wealthier and the country becoming more and more regionised between city and rural.

In terms of social practicals, it will probably differ by group. I certainly feel that the government should adopt Japanese like hygiene requirements for work and business establishments. So instead of just seeing hand sanitizer at the hospital you see it everywhere and hand shaking with some will go bye bye.


Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Apr 2020 2.02am)

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 03 Apr 20 6.30am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Or we could just try funding the NHS properly.

And that's it then. Solves everyone's problems.
Before this C19 on any given day 99% of people generally got the treatment and attention they needed. Might have taken a while but they got it.
Btw the NHS wasnt formed to keep people alive it was to make people better. That is Stirlings point in his take on this lockdown. I dont agree with him but fundimently we are ruling this with our hearts not our heads. Look at the money spent on keeping people and children alive who have no chance of survival. Charlie guard for one.that poor kid never had a chance but got emotionally forced at the cost of millions to stay alive. There are 100s if not 1000s more whereby death was guaranteed but law was making the decisions.
How many bad NHS experiences have you or yours had then danh. All services could be better but you cannot fund these services for a potential 100 year pandemic. You have to be reactive when it comes to money in the huge amounts that the government has to spend.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 03 Apr 20 7.31am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst


Before this C19 on any given day 99% of people generally got the treatment and attention they needed. Might have taken a while but they got it.

I think that you'll find that hasn't been the case. Targets for A&E and cancer care have been missed by quite large margins in some cases


Originally posted by cryrst


How many bad NHS experiences have you or yours had then danh. All services could be better but you cannot fund these services for a potential 100 year pandemic. You have to be reactive when it comes to money in the huge amounts that the government has to spend.

I hear what you say about 100 year pandemics but Government departments meet every year to discuss and review plans in the event of various catastrophes.

Whilst one cannot plan for a vaccine in advance one could certainly ensure that the front line NHS staff had sufficient protective clothing so that every time they tried to cure a patient they weren't put at risk themselves

 

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