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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 18 Jul 20 6.05pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


So the idea is that the UK has under-reported the figures? Even though the official total is equal to the combined total for Russia, pakistan, China, Bangladesh, Nigeria, Turkey, Egypt, Indonesia, Japan, the Phillipines, Algeria, Greece and Poland.


Yes, shocking i know, but not unexpected given their record on dealing with the truth. I would love to see the posts on here, by the gov uk lovers, if that slithering snail terrorist loving god hating piece of evil Jeremy Corbyn had got in, yes, he didn"t, but if he had, and made the same gaffs as Boris, then pulling the same strokes(abandoning the charts etc when they show unfavourable figures), the CON lovers would be up in arms, or alms, perhaps both! They would be posting we told you so, this cnut couldn"t organise a pizz up in a brewery blah blah blah, but as its the CONS these things happen, thats life, move on! I"m just playing devils advocate, but if i see a post thats incorrect i like to put the real facts, just for good measure!

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Jul 20 6.20pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

I know Rudi, and you know, and even Boris knows, thats why he conveniently stopped using the charts in his daily briefings, the same charts he was always pointing to showing us lagging behind Italy and Spain, until we surged above them, then the chart system was flawed! The reason we are the worst in Europe, as you know, was that Boris told us to all go out and socialise, to the football, down the pub, while the rest of Europe were saying stay in! It was the day after the parliament square celebrations for leaving the eu, Boris wasn"t listening to european leaders, we were free, we do it our way, until he realised his error, told us to stay in, or face a fine! That huge clanger by the CON servative pm is said to have cost half the 70k lives lost, i don"t dislike Boris, but no point pretending that was a huge error, sadly costing many, many thousands of deaths! All will come out in time, but Boris will be long gone when it does !

Dear oh dear you’re still doing it. Our deaths are probably 2/3 or less than what they’re reporting. Probably nearer half. Why don’t you wait until the year is over and then you can compare all deaths?

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 Jul 20 6.30pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Dear oh dear you’re still doing it. Our deaths are probably 2/3 or less than what they’re reporting. Probably nearer half. Why don’t you wait until the year is over and then you can compare all deaths?

Nobody will believe a government revised figure anyway, especially downward for political purposes.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Jul 20 6.55pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Nobody will believe a government revised figure anyway, especially downward for political purposes.

Maybe some won’t when they keep hearing the same losers say the same thing on tv. They’ll probably still claim it if our deaths compared to 2019 are better than most of the world.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Jul 20 6.56pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Nobody will believe a government revised figure anyway, especially downward for political purposes.

But isn’t the point that the figure in England has been over stated? If someone diagnosed with Covid got hit by a bus four months later they were counted as a Covid death. If it’s a true figure then is the assumption that the health services in all these other countries is so much better funded and capable than the NHS?

 

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View SwordFish's Profile SwordFish Flag Peasmarsh,East Sussex 18 Jul 20 7.06pm Send a Private Message to SwordFish Add SwordFish as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

I know Rudi, and you know, and even Boris knows, thats why he conveniently stopped using the charts in his daily briefings, the same charts he was always pointing to showing us lagging behind Italy and Spain, until we surged above them, then the chart system was flawed! The reason we are the worst in Europe, as you know, was that Boris told us to all go out and socialise, to the football, down the pub, while the rest of Europe were saying stay in! It was the day after the parliament square celebrations for leaving the eu, Boris wasn"t listening to european leaders, we were free, we do it our way, until he realised his error, told us to stay in, or face a fine! That huge clanger by the CON servative pm is said to have cost half the 70k lives lost, i don"t dislike Boris, but no point pretending that was a huge error, sadly costing many, many thousands of deaths! All will come out in time, but Boris will be long gone when it does !

Sorry I don’t believe this, I had a savage car crash in April and after I “came too”in A&E and apparently during the time when we “needed to protect the NHS” and they were at risk of being “overwhelmed” was actually their quietest period in history to the point they had to advertise on TV if you have cancer symptoms or stroke or heart attack please come to hospital, I don’t know anyone who’s had COVID 19 and I don’t know anyone who knows anyone who’s had COVID 19, to me, I genuinely think something bigger is going on or is on the horizon, and this is something to distract us from this , in my opinion , including all the protests and stuff , “The world has gone mad” and I wish I was raising my children in an earlier time


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“This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 Jul 20 7.13pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

I don't think the needed response, of a mass military-style compulsory testing program, is possible in our capitalist system.

Nor will it solve other serious global issues like climate change.

The soviet system, unpalatable to us, but successful in WW2, would have had a better chance of success in my view, for all its flaws.

It is no accident that governments are redeeming socialist policies but it isn't going to be enough.

Covid-19 isn't listening.


 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 18 Jul 20 7.37pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by SwordFish

Sorry I don’t believe this, I had a savage car crash in April and after I “came too”in A&E and apparently during the time when we “needed to protect the NHS” and they were at risk of being “overwhelmed” was actually their quietest period in history to the point they had to advertise on TV if you have cancer symptoms or stroke or heart attack please come to hospital, I don’t know anyone who’s had COVID 19 and I don’t know anyone who knows anyone who’s had COVID 19, to me, I genuinely think something bigger is going on or is on the horizon, and this is something to distract us from this , in my opinion , including all the protests and stuff , “The world has gone mad” and I wish I was raising my children in an earlier time

I know a doctor at lewisham hospital, he was out on his feet for the first few months, including april, long shifts, in every day, you were lucky, 70k wern"t, but agree with you the worlds gone mad!
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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 18 Jul 20 7.44pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

But isn’t the point that the figure in England has been over stated? If someone diagnosed with Covid got hit by a bus four months later they were counted as a Covid death. If it’s a true figure then is the assumption that the health services in all these other countries is so much better funded and capable than the NHS?

No, the point is under estimating, funny how matt hancock when this latest news about under reporting wants an immediate enquiry, but Boris on the actual crisis wants an enquiry, sometime, but not now, far to busy! Just more nonsense by the gov, either do both now, or both later, but no doubt some of the CON lovers will come up with a reason why thats not possible! Obviously the Boris enquiry would be whats happened up to now, so we can learn lessons, not the final enquiry on the whole crisis(thought i would get that in to save the gov.uk lovers the effort).

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Jul 20 8.15pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

No, the point is under estimating, funny how matt hancock when this latest news about under reporting wants an immediate enquiry, but Boris on the actual crisis wants an enquiry, sometime, but not now, far to busy! Just more nonsense by the gov, either do both now, or both later, but no doubt some of the CON lovers will come up with a reason why thats not possible! Obviously the Boris enquiry would be whats happened up to now, so we can learn lessons, not the final enquiry on the whole crisis(thought i would get that in to save the gov.uk lovers the effort).

As the figures stand England has x10 the deaths in China but the total is being under-estimated? If we genuinely have x20 the death rate in China then the NHS has failed in spectacular fashion.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 18 Jul 20 8.26pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

As the figures stand England has x10 the deaths in China but the total is being under-estimated? If we genuinely have x20 the death rate in China then the NHS has failed in spectacular fashion.

Comparing to china may not be the best example.
I doubt the numbers from there are correct.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Jul 20 8.38pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Comparing to china may not be the best example.
I doubt the numbers from there are correct.

Agreed but whose figures can we compare ours to? pakistan: 5475,
Bangladesh: 2547, Indonesia: 3957, Nigeria: 769 or are they all being economical with the truth?
The allegation is the UK Government are trying to conceal an additional 30,000 deaths.

 

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