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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 17 Mar 20 12.04am Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

I read somewhere Phil that the season can be deemed 'Finished' if 75% of the games have been played?
I think UEFA meet tomorrow (Tuesday) depending on what they decide will determine what the EPL do at their meeting on Thursday.


I don’t doubt what you say and I wouldn’t be surprised if they do try and fudge it in such a way but to me this would be bizarre and rather stretching the meaning of ‘finished’. Indeed with not a single one of the 92 positions settled beyond doubt it would be anything but finished.

The 75% threshold would also be particularly pertinent because for a number of the EPL teams, they have only played 28 games of the 38 due to be played (73.68%). (The EFL teams do look to have just hit the 75% threshold of games played for each league.)

I can see more potential for mass litigation if they try to apply the 75% of games played formula instead of simplifying matters by saying the season wasn’t finished or even close to being finished and therefore the season has been abandoned and all league standings declared null and void.

As unsatisfactory as this scenario might be I see it being less unsatisfactory than teams being relegated as it stands, with games in hand on those around them and with some teams having played opponents in the top six twice and others only once.

Unless of course, this 75% formula was in the EPL & EFL rules at the start of the current season. Even then one would imagine that this would only apply if all teams had played the same number of games.

Of course there is also the potential for this unfolding Pandemic to get so bad in both economic and mortality terms that the outcome of a football league position becomes so blatantly irrelevant that the governing body write the season off and draw a line under it.

 

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View nettletoneagle's Profile nettletoneagle Flag market rasen 17 Mar 20 8.57am Send a Private Message to nettletoneagle Add nettletoneagle as a friend

Never mind what's happening in the real world, what about the HOL prediction league? I'm handily placed in 23rd and I've still got my joker to play

 

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View IMilburn's Profile IMilburn Flag Haywards Heath 17 Mar 20 11.04am Send a Private Message to IMilburn Add IMilburn as a friend

Well of course my travel insurer has!

I have an annual multi-trip policy last renewed in July 2019 which specifically states that it will not reimburse airline ticket costs if a trip is cancelled for reasons of epidemic and pandemic.

Needless to say, I have tickets that will not be reimbursed if travel is not possible for this reason


Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Who else has planned for a world pandemic disease? Things like that often cost money and are usually laughed out of the room.

 

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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 17 Mar 20 12.40pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by IMilburn

Well of course my travel insurer has!

I have an annual multi-trip policy last renewed in July 2019 which specifically states that it will not reimburse airline ticket costs if a trip is cancelled for reasons of epidemic and pandemic.

Needless to say, I have tickets that will not be reimbursed if travel is not possible for this reason.

Have you checked with the airline regarding a refund?

If the flights are cancelled then the airline or provider should refund you the cost of the ticket as they are not providing the service you have paid for. It shouldn’t come down to insurance in the first instance.

I hope you get this sorted.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 Mar 20 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

Have you checked with the airline regarding a refund?

If the flights are cancelled then the airline or provider should refund you the cost of the ticket as they are not providing the service you have paid for. It shouldn’t come down to insurance in the first instance.

I hope you get this sorted.

You may also get a refund on your credit card, maybe!

 


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View wrightandbright's Profile wrightandbright Flag reigate 17 Mar 20 1.26pm Send a Private Message to wrightandbright Add wrightandbright as a friend

can't we bring in the pools panel and let them decide each weeks fixtures, be interesting

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 17 Mar 20 2.22pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by wrightandbright

can't we bring in the pools panel and let them decide each weeks fixtures, be interesting

No, cos Palace will either lose every game, or at most get a no-score draw against the teams below us.......
that's how it always used to work with them in the past

 


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View IMilburn's Profile IMilburn Flag Haywards Heath 17 Mar 20 4.12pm Send a Private Message to IMilburn Add IMilburn as a friend


Thanks for the encouragement.

The flights are not until the end of July so things may yet resolve. We are booked with Thai Airways who are still merrily running two flights per day to and from London, with the Thai authorities putting all arrivals from Europe into quarantine for 14 days; that wouldn't bother us as we have a house there with a nice pool and are planning to stay for 6 weeks
However, a lot could happen in the meantime. For example, if Thai Airways were forced by the Thai or UK government to cancel flights, would they refund? They were teetering on the edge of bankruptcy before coronavirus - in fact the best solution would be their bankruptcy as my insurance would then pay out!

In response to Badger, not sure where I stand with the credit card as payment was made to an agency and not directly to the airline ....

Anyway, slightly off topic for this thread!

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

Have you checked with the airline regarding a refund?

If the flights are cancelled then the airline or provider should refund you the cost of the ticket as they are not providing the service you have paid for. It shouldn’t come down to insurance in the first instance.

I hope you get this sorted.

 

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View Daddyorc's Profile Daddyorc Flag Long Island City, NY 17 Mar 20 4.14pm Send a Private Message to Daddyorc Add Daddyorc as a friend

The biggest question in my mind is what happens to relegation / promotion teams.

For which, there is an answer.

No teams get relegated, but the top 3 of each division get promoted.

This would leave the premier league with 23 teams for next year, but every other league is the same # (except for the lowest league).

The league cup is then cancelled for premier league teams, so they can play more premier league games. Possibly too, the FA cup they don't enter until another round later.

As far as relegation the following 3 years - should be 4 relegated - that goes for each league until the PM is back at 20 teams.

 

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View IMilburn's Profile IMilburn Flag Haywards Heath 17 Mar 20 4.30pm Send a Private Message to IMilburn Add IMilburn as a friend

Interesting suggestion, it may be a solution for the premiership but one solution doesn't fit all.

For example, look at the League One table. If you took Oxford United as the third promoted team, I am sure that at least five other teams would commence legal action. Not least Wycombe Wanderers who have played a game less than the others around them.

Originally posted by Daddyorc

The biggest question in my mind is what happens to relegation / promotion teams.

For which, there is an answer.

No teams get relegated, but the top 3 of each division get promoted.

This would leave the premier league with 23 teams for next year, but every other league is the same # (except for the lowest league).

The league cup is then cancelled for premier league teams, so they can play more premier league games. Possibly too, the FA cup they don't enter until another round later.

As far as relegation the following 3 years - should be 4 relegated - that goes for each league until the PM is back at 20 teams.

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 17 Mar 20 4.43pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Daddyorc

The biggest question in my mind is what happens to relegation / promotion teams.

For which, there is an answer.

No teams get relegated, but the top 3 of each division get promoted.

This would leave the premier league with 23 teams for next year, but every other league is the same # (except for the lowest league).

The league cup is then cancelled for premier league teams, so they can play more premier league games. Possibly too, the FA cup they don't enter until another round later.

As far as relegation the following 3 years - should be 4 relegated - that goes for each league until the PM is back at 20 teams.

All im saying is, what happened the last time the EPL reduced the league from 22 teams to 20.

IMilburn, if you've only booked flights only, they are NOT ATOL protected & if your insurance already wont pay out, as someone else has stated, you could claim with your CC/DC provider

 


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View daven's Profile daven Flag 17 Mar 20 6.31pm Send a Private Message to daven Add daven as a friend

Had this idea, but probably needs a bit of work.

This season is frozen until this time next year or slightly earlier then restarted so that the games are roughly being played at the right time of the year.

Then if this goes on through the summer it wouldn't be a problem.
If it was possible to start earlier then a series of friendlies or mini tournaments between premier league and efl teams could be organised to boost lower league clubs incomes.

 

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