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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag People's Republic of Gozo 19 Jun 20 10.32am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

The island I live on had only a few black men about 10 years ago but now there are hundreds mixed into a population of only 30,000. It is a good microcosm of how racial stereotypes spread like a disease. My daughter recently asked her friend if she wanted to meet her at the public gardens to which she replied that she couldn't because African men drink there and they steal children and sell them (!!!). One of the villages complained that crime had spiked since the 'Africans had arrived' and that they were scared to go out. When the Mayor responded that actually there had been not one crime committed by a migrant and that crime was down they responded that 'well, they stand around on street corners drinking and looking threatening'.
The reality is that aside from a dispute between two friends there has been no additional crime of note on my island. I play football with a dozen or so Somalians and they have not once gotten a machete out over a disputed goal. However, a young black man was shot dead by two off-duty Maltese soldiers last year just for being black. What happened? People got upset that the army were targeted for abuse and complained about the migrant situation.

The UK is not the same as here, but the myth v reality thing is prevalent. Yes black men commit crime, but should all black men be punished for that? As a white male are you stopped and searched just because other white men have committed violent crime? Communities and the police have been failed by successive governments but so long as Branson doesn't have to sell his island then everything is ok.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Jun 20 11.11am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

The island I live on had only a few black men about 10 years ago but now there are hundreds mixed into a population of only 30,000. It is a good microcosm of how racial stereotypes spread like a disease. My daughter recently asked her friend if she wanted to meet her at the public gardens to which she replied that she couldn't because African men drink there and they steal children and sell them (!!!). One of the villages complained that crime had spiked since the 'Africans had arrived' and that they were scared to go out. When the Mayor responded that actually there had been not one crime committed by a migrant and that crime was down they responded that 'well, they stand around on street corners drinking and looking threatening'.
The reality is that aside from a dispute between two friends there has been no additional crime of note on my island. I play football with a dozen or so Somalians and they have not once gotten a machete out over a disputed goal. However, a young black man was shot dead by two off-duty Maltese soldiers last year just for being black. What happened? People got upset that the army were targeted for abuse and complained about the migrant situation.

The UK is not the same as here, but the myth v reality thing is prevalent. Yes black men commit crime, but should all black men be punished for that? As a white male are you stopped and searched just because other white men have committed violent crime? Communities and the police have been failed by successive governments but so long as Branson doesn't have to sell his island then everything is ok.

What about the croydon Sunday league?

 


COYP

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag The Slimy Thoroughfare 19 Jun 20 3.55pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Wonder what the Tom Robinson Band think about their logo being nicked?

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Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 19 Jun 20 5.11pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by lexmark87

more white people are killed by the police in america every year than black people so why do only black lives matter.

And why do people of Chinese descent, pakistani, Indian, Italian, Polish, Irish, travellers, Arab, Hindu, Muslim, disabled, women seeking pay parity for doing the same job as men but getting 40% less per annum? Why don't their lives matter? Because they generally don't have a chip on their shoulder and try to get on with it.
ALL LIVES MATTER

 

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View kev64's Profile kev64 Flag Thorney, Cambs 19 Jun 20 10.10pm Send a Private Message to kev64 Add kev64 as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

And why do people of Chinese descent, pakistani, Indian, Italian, Polish, Irish, travellers, Arab, Hindu, Muslim, disabled, women seeking pay parity for doing the same job as men but getting 40% less per annum? Why don't their lives matter? Because they generally don't have a chip on their shoulder and try to get on with it.
ALL LIVES MATTER

ĎTheyí as you tactfully so put it, really just would like to be treated equally, nothing more nothing less. Please just take some time and find out why BLM is used as a tag line as opposed to ALM.

Just blurting out but All Lives Matters is frankly tedious Daily Mail bulls***.

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 20 Jun 20 12.32am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

The UK has never been more diverse and tolerant.

British TV, sports and music stars are from all walks of life and well represented.

Migrants come to the uk in large number... legally and illegally.

Walk around you, look at the fabric of the community.

Yes, some people are dicks but it doesn't define us..

this whole BLM movement is a scam and just causing more division, heart ache, pain and debt.

 


This was once a quality forum....

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View Aray's Profile Aray Flag South London 20 Jun 20 10.44am Send a Private Message to Aray Add Aray as a friend

Not sure this should be in Palace talk. Thereís always been some bigots on this site and why I stay away from general talk.
But while Iím here...I feel forced to say, feels like some of you are unpleasant relics from the 60s and 70s. If youíre offended by this statement then target hit.

Of course all lives matter - but if black lives donít then that premise isnít met. The cry for justice really should not get you, or anyone with a conscience, hot under the collar.

I would hope that you would understand why black people and their allies are taking action across the world. Being killed by the police or stopped disproportionately for your skin colour is what kicked this all off.

It canít be removed from issues such as young black people not (on average) getting a job their grades would warrant - this is what is meant by structural racism. And because of it (down to various complex factors - Parish made some good points on Question Time) contributes to all sorts of social problems (some self inflicted) like gangs and broken families. Black families have higher rates of church attendance, for instance and yet according to some on here the problems we face are all our own fault...

I would also hope that just because some BLM activists are also Marxists you would be able to distinguish those views from others, who do not want to tear everything down but want some social and economic justice. Get outside of the bubble and youíll fine most BLM supporters have no qualms that Churchill is rightfully placed on a pedestal- despite him being the mastermind of an electoral strategy that baldly stated - if you want a white Britain vote Conservative. Fine different era - right?

Thing is, this sh!t is complex! Stop being so effing reductive!!! Exercise some critical thinking- if you can. It isnít black or white - pun intended.

Back to the original post. Personally Iím not that keen for football to be enforcing everyone taking the knee and the rest of it. But I can see that they wanted to have a strategy to avoid the mess the NFL ended up in.

When Tommie Smith and John Carlos held their fists upright in 1968 it was supported by Peter Norman (a true unsung hero) and I suspect a lot of non-black players would do the same now.

So I like some on here, think politics should be left to the individual, if possible, to make their stance. Take the knee at the start of the match if you want to but no hounding of those who wish not to.

I genuinely pity anyone who canít stomach watching tonightís game because if it, even if it seems fake - personally I look forward to seeing Palace play after 3 long months tonight. COYP.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 20 Jun 20 11.30am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Aray

Thing is, this sh!t is complex! Stop being so effing reductive!!! Exercise some critical thinking- if you can. It isnít black or white - pun intended.

It being complex is why it shouldnít be narrowed down to, or be hijacked or manipulated by a Marxist ideology and movement of both whites and some blacks. That is why some fans canít watch on principle.

I havenít got too much time to post on Britain going ballistic over American cops killing a black man or black men. The stats of that over here donít stack up. There is probably some individual racism within the police force that causes racial profiling. There is disproportionate black crime that may add to the individual suspicion or act of racism.

Tbh Iíd rather just fast forward to when everyoneís back at work and some meaningful debates and changes happen, rather than three words that mean one thing (or others without another word in it), a fist meaning another, and an organisation behind it that mean another. The things that really matter have been lost in a load of noise. Things like African history and unbiased colonialism in the school curriculum. Some kind of reform of meritocracy in recruitment, where possible, because some recruitment agencies donít put you forward because of other reasons than skin colour.

Youíll find that people arenít racist but just donít all get carried along by the crowd, especially when thereís sinister leaders behind it. When the attacking of police in Westminster happened I said that i support a meritocracy but it needs to be known what is it that black people want. That hasnít changed for me. All that has changed is the new thing to follow or like. 2020 is truly s***.

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COYP

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View lexmark87's Profile lexmark87 Flag 20 Jun 20 11.38am Send a Private Message to lexmark87 Add lexmark87 as a friend

black lives matter is a racist organisation.
dosent give a toss about black on black crime.
dosent give a toss about black on white crime.
but if one white man commits a crime against a black man then we are all held accountable.
utter left wing racist crap.

 

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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 20 Jun 20 5.58pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by Vaibow

The UK has never been more diverse and tolerant.

British TV, sports and music stars are from all walks of life and well represented.

Migrants come to the uk in large number... legally and illegally.

Walk around you, look at the fabric of the community.

Yes, some people are dicks but it doesn't define us..

this whole BLM movement is a scam and just causing more division, heart ache, pain and debt.

I would agree with much of that . While the BLM movement may have had genuine beginnings as a protest against police violence in the US it is now a political machine endorsed by far left anarchists.

Anyone not of that political persuasion sees it as a bit of a kick in the teeth when the FA decides that football as a whole should support this cause on everyones behalf .Because that is what they are doing , in asking /making (I don't know which ) our team to back a political stance they are saying we all do when that is obviously not the case .

But whats decided is done , we as fans can only support our team and leave the politics to those who think they know better .

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 20 Jun 20 6.08pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by Elpis

I would agree with much of that . While the BLM movement may have had genuine beginnings as a protest against police violence in the US it is now a political machine endorsed by far left anarchists.

Anyone not of that political persuasion sees it as a bit of a kick in the teeth when the FA decides that football as a whole should support this cause on everyones behalf .Because that is what they are doing , in asking /making (I don't know which ) our team to back a political stance they are saying we all do when that is obviously not the case .

But whats decided is done , we as fans can only support our team and leave the politics to those who think they know better .

All of which is illegal under FIFA/UEFA laws of Football, ie: NO political logo's/messages on kits

 


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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 20 Jun 20 7.31pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

For the love of God.

I tune in to BBC for the game, and literally immediately we have the BBC agenda shoved in my face.

Just f*** off. These BLM scum are dangerous marxist iconoclasts desperate to erase culture and history to further their aims. I f***ing hate the BBC.

 

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