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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 31 Aug 20 3.43pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

It's worth looking at for sure.

Let's take the past few years. We've had the hostile environment, repeated efforts to reduce net migration to below 100 thousand and of course Brexit.

Just flicking through the Evening Standard's coverage of Goldman Sachs in that time is a good way of gauging how they feel...

'Overseas investors shrug off Brexit jitters by investing £7billion on London offices', while 'Goldman Sachs vice-chairman Richard Gnodde said the long lease of its Plumtree Court site “demonstrates our continued commitment to London” (2017) [Link]

Revealed: New £1bn London HQ of Goldman Sachs - which boasts resting rooms for tired bankers, lactation suites for mothers, a nursery and pre-school (2019) [Link]

"The boss of Goldman Sachs has admitted that the impact of Brexit has not been as bad as he expected it to be" [Link]

Migration, ultimately, doesn't affect their bottom line. Put in more robust financial regulation, increase corporation tax and close down our offshore principalities, however...

The reality though is that migration has never been as high as it is now.

Johnson has betrayed Brexit voters and twisted what they asked for.

He's focused upon one half of what they wanted....governmental independence....something he's always liked....but he's perverted the main reason the British leavers voted for Brexit, which was stopping the influx of foreigners into their living spaces.

Betrayal.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Aug 2020 3.47pm)

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 31 Aug 20 3.54pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yeah but Croydon...you're arguing that while showing a different country's flag.

I'm amazed to hear the chancellor is worth that though....he still looks like he's in his twenties.


Ha, thats true! He might be the best of them to be fair , just that anyone can have so much doe and tell us to go out and spend ours to save the country is a bit hard to swallow, i would like to ask him to donate half his, leaving him with only 1000 million, to show good faith and really give the economy a boost! Then i would give him my vote for ever more !

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Aug 2020 3.40pm)

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 31 Aug 20 3.57pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I'd suggest he wouldn't be so quick to part with his own money as he is with public money recently.

If he married into it, not like he's going to see any of it - that's only a small clothes, shoes and gallivanting budget if my missus is anything to go by. She'd go through a couple of billion in a week, no problem.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View serial thriller's Profile serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 31 Aug 20 4.02pm Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The reality though is that migration has never been as high as it is now.

Johnson has betrayed Brexit voters and twisted what they asked for.

He's focused upon one half of what they wanted....governmental independence....something he's always liked....but he's perverted the main reason the British leavers voted for Brexit, which was stopping the influx of foreigners into their living spaces.

Betrayal.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Aug 2020 3.47pm)

So again I ask, how can we expect the public to have any say in policy, be it immigration or healthcare, when finance holds our government by the throat? We are all fighting a losing battle until we take on the corruption that lies at the heart of our society.

Edited by serial thriller (31 Aug 2020 4.04pm)

 


If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 31 Aug 20 4.20pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

I'm asking whether you think we as a society should be ok with this.

Honestly I recommend to you all this book Moneyland as it's a brilliant analysis of the modern economy. For me there are three things we should be concerned about as UK citizens about this form of economy...

1. It is a surefire means of inflation. We most evidently see this in property, which obviously has a huge knock on in to local business, and is a large part of the reason why high streets are empty and housing is so extortionate.

2. It infiltrates our politics. There's a great bit in the book about Jersey. 100 000 population, but with some of the wealthiest Trust accounts in the world running through it. The financiers are so intertwined within the political system there that they are above the law. The book tells of a time when the Jersey police force brought in two of Britain's most high profile police, and they found a child sex ring operated by the same people, widescale crime cover ups, all because the accused had designed the legal system to cover themselves. You don't have to dig too far into our politics to see the risk of something similar happening is very high.

3. It's bad enough having foreign criminals hiding their wealth in London, but what about when they start bleeding our assets dry? Contracts in our rail, health and public utilities have been bought up by companies whose shareholders run identical financial set ups. So our government pays out millions of taxpayers' money, the shareholders get paid it in dividends, and that money is then taxed in the Cayman islands. Hence we lose billions in revenue, have to close down vital pubic services, and see real wages fall sharper than they have since Nelson was fighting Napoleon.

Again, if someone can give me a detailed analysis of how this is the fault of refugees I'd be grateful. If anything, most of them are probably fleeing from the same people who are hiding the exploited profits in London property.

yes I'm ok with it.
I just want to live my life without worrying who's got what and how they got it legally. Envy will take you down.
Whatever others do has naff all to do with me as I'm never going to be or want to be the judge,jury and executioner.
Am I now to be told how stupid I must be to not want it changed or can you accept my answer and let it lye.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 31 Aug 20 4.23pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

So again I ask, how can we expect the public to have any say in policy, be it immigration or healthcare, when finance holds our government by the throat? We are all fighting a losing battle until we take on the corruption that lies at the heart of our society.

Edited by serial thriller (31 Aug 2020 4.04pm)

A lot of your early posts are about taking from the wealthy and giving to the poor. This is why you want more money coming in so you can help the lazy, feckless no Mark's who put nothing in and just take.
Feck em all.
They never helped me.

 

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

I'd suggest he wouldn't be so quick to part with his own money as he is with public money recently.

If he married into it, not like he's going to see any of it - that's only a small clothes, shoes and gallivanting budget if my missus is anything to go by. She'd go through a couple of billion in a week, no problem.

Ha, she has a good man to fund her!

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 31 Aug 20 4.42pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

It seems kind of disproportionate, and I only get my information from the media.
My father-in-law worked all his life in the police force. In retirement he lived in a housing association flat. The Council came to assess his dwellings and they told him quite bluntly, "his pension put him just over the threshold for assistance. He would have been better-off not working at all"

So when someone who has contributed to The System all his working-life gets 'done-over', it raises a few concerns that people with no right to reside in the UK (and have made no contributions to the UK economy), seem to get housing and Benefits automatically.

And not only are the (mainly) young men of fighting/working age, but once they land and get refugee status, that automatically gives their wives and children rights to reside in the UK.

So in the beginnings of the CV19 decline and seeing pending increasing taxation and unemployment, isn't it bewildering that the UK seems to have funds to support additional drains on financial resources ?

just a point of view

You forgot to mention the “dependent” parents and siblings

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 31 Aug 20 4.46pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

if these new arrivals are mostly Christian, then it would be Londonnesburg

Funnily enough the amount of young Iranianmales who have have found Christianity is astounding

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 31 Aug 20 5.27pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

So again I ask, how can we expect the public to have any say in policy, be it immigration or healthcare, when finance holds our government by the throat? We are all fighting a losing battle until we take on the corruption that lies at the heart of our society.

Edited by serial thriller (31 Aug 2020 4.04pm)

When it all breaks down that opportunity will come....The English/British will find excuses to turn a blind eye to everything...it won't be until the welfare system breaks down that action happens.

But it's at least a decade or more away here.

Not elsewhere though.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Aug 2020 5.29pm)

 

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View Fierybiscuits's Profile Fierybiscuits Flag 31 Aug 20 9.58pm Send a Private Message to Fierybiscuits Add Fierybiscuits as a friend

That’s great and I think most would welcome people like him but that’s not the whole story. It’s like someone putting up a post of a migrant that has committed a crime and using that as a reason to say immigration is bad. It’s a complicated issue and people like you are just as bad as people on the far right in that you are causing division and trying to make complex issues black and white when the truth is somewhat grey.

 

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