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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Online Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Oct 20 11.04am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

More worryingly the journalist who interviewed him is under investigation for not questioning Starkeyís assertions.

I didn't know that - utter madness.

 


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Originally posted by ASCPFC

I didn't know that - utter madness.

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Yes. No idea who the interviewer is but the implications for other journalists are worrying.

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag 13 Oct 20 2.42pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Shifty97

People arenít trying to change everything, itís about wanting equality. Racism is an issue itís not really trying to change the history of the country. Also itís not just people that have moved here, there a plenty of people that are an ethnic minority that were born here including myself

So how do you feel about all those terrorists in Bristol tearing the statue down? I for one call that a crime yet no one was charged. Also Shifty, I would be interested to here your view on the Twitter post that the Everton fellah did when he went to PSG with a picture of a baboon. Bolasie replied with 3 baboons. Now we canít have it both ways can we? Or can we? My latest take is that the whole race issue thing wants its cake and eat it. Personally I feel the whole thing has been totally over egged. Most of us have left the racist thing behind ages ago. We all should move on positively and stop drawing attention to it. Like when Sterling just laughed at the Chelsea.

 

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Originally posted by Shifty97

People arenít trying to change everything, itís about wanting equality. Racism is an issue itís not really trying to change the history of the country. Also itís not just people that have moved here, there a plenty of people that are an ethnic minority that were born here including myself

By the way Shifty, point taken and accepted re being born here.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Online Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Oct 20 3.24pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

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Yes. No idea who the interviewer is but the implications for other journalists are worrying.

I can see your point. However, I was talking about Starkey's point about accents. In this interview on slavery Starkey says, (that it can't be described as genocide) as 'so many damn blacks survived'. I believe I can see his point, as I am a historian who has met him a couple of times, but it's an unfortunate choice of words, considering the political climate today.
My own opinion is that this is a warning to Grimes for being 'right wimg'. Same thing as has happened to several 'right wing' figures. None of whom are right wing in my opinion. Even if they were, in my opinion, it's their choice. It is entirely wrong for the interviewer to be threatened in this way but that is happening everywhere now.
As for Starkey, he gave a candid view several times on the London youth accent, basically stating it promotes violence and ignorance, and promotes unemployment (in that an employer will not employ people with that accent). Starkey said the accent was entirely fake and should be called out for what it is. It is these views that lost him all of his jobs. He's well off mind, he recently viewed a 16th century mansion, 17 bedrooms, in Norfolk, with his male partner.
If you do a search you will mainly find the rebuttals of Starkey, which proclaim to be research but are, as is so usual, just pseudo ass licking papers to maintain an academic post.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 13 Oct 20 8.20pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Just watched a specsavers advert.
1 pair of white eyes out of 10.
Maybe bame have bad eyes!

 

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

I can see your point. However, I was talking about Starkey's point about accents. In this interview on slavery Starkey says, (that it can't be described as genocide) as 'so many damn blacks survived'. I believe I can see his point, as I am a historian who has met him a couple of times, but it's an unfortunate choice of words, considering the political climate today.
My own opinion is that this is a warning to Grimes for being 'right wimg'. Same thing as has happened to several 'right wing' figures. None of whom are right wing in my opinion. Even if they were, in my opinion, it's their choice. It is entirely wrong for the interviewer to be threatened in this way but that is happening everywhere now.
As for Starkey, he gave a candid view several times on the London youth accent, basically stating it promotes violence and ignorance, and promotes unemployment (in that an employer will not employ people with that accent). Starkey said the accent was entirely fake and should be called out for what it is. It is these views that lost him all of his jobs. He's well off mind, he recently viewed a 16th century mansion, 17 bedrooms, in Norfolk, with his male partner.
If you do a search you will mainly find the rebuttals of Starkey, which proclaim to be research but are, as is so usual, just pseudo ass licking papers to maintain an academic post.

He isnít wrong there, but might be in however many generations time. But we mustnít correct or offend children now should we?

 


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View Shifty97's Profile Shifty97 Flag Croydon 14 Oct 20 7.07pm Send a Private Message to Shifty97 Add Shifty97 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Even white people.
Music of white origin, white lives matter,white police association etc.
How does that play out.
I would guess it wouldn't very well at all.

Iím talking about groups focusing on ending discrimination for their own race. White people arenít discriminated against to the same level

 

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View Shifty97's Profile Shifty97 Flag Croydon 14 Oct 20 7.13pm Send a Private Message to Shifty97 Add Shifty97 as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

With respect, its a problem for blm, not anyone else, blm make it a problem by demanding this, that & the other. In the UK, you have, probably, the most racially diverse country on earth, BUT, blm want to expunge history, laws, policing & national identity. If they dont like where they live, fcuk off, same as many others have including myself, mainly because of the way the UK is heading.

Just because this is a racially diverse country, it doesnít mean that there isnít any racism. They donít want to expunge history, they want more black history to be taught. They want to change policing because the police have a history of being unfair to ethnic minorities and I donít see how they want to change national identity

 

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View Shifty97's Profile Shifty97 Flag Croydon 14 Oct 20 7.23pm Send a Private Message to Shifty97 Add Shifty97 as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

So how do you feel about all those terrorists in Bristol tearing the statue down? I for one call that a crime yet no one was charged. Also Shifty, I would be interested to here your view on the Twitter post that the Everton fellah did when he went to PSG with a picture of a baboon. Bolasie replied with 3 baboons. Now we canít have it both ways can we? Or can we? My latest take is that the whole race issue thing wants its cake and eat it. Personally I feel the whole thing has been totally over egged. Most of us have left the racist thing behind ages ago. We all should move on positively and stop drawing attention to it. Like when Sterling just laughed at the Chelsea.

Firstly how is that terrorism? They took action though as the statue was of a slave owner, as they felt it was disrespectful, however I donít approve of doing stuff like that.

Havenít seen the Twitter post, so did he post the baboon picture instead of himself?

I would love to move on but I feel like ignoring it wonít make the problem go away

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 14 Oct 20 8.03pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Shifty97

Iím talking about groups focusing on ending discrimination for their own race. White people arenít discriminated against to the same level

Have a look around and you will see they are, in a way that you cant or dont want to see. Positive discrimination is happening here and now. Check out the media for the evidence. Not racism but discrimination over colour. Is one worse than the other?

 

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