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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag Chatham 14 Oct 20 8.09pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Shifty97

Firstly how is that terrorism? They took action though as the statue was of a slave owner, as they felt it was disrespectful, however I donít approve of doing stuff like that.

Havenít seen the Twitter post, so did he post the baboon picture instead of himself?

I would love to move on but I feel like ignoring it wonít make the problem go away

They felt it was disrespectful, although he paid for half of everything in bristol. Their houses, their university, their high streets. Bet none have left uni, given back their keys or stopped shopping there. Double standard hypocrisy.

 

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View punksnotdead's Profile punksnotdead Flag croydon 15 Oct 20 5.57pm Send a Private Message to punksnotdead Add punksnotdead as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

So how do you feel about all those terrorists in Bristol tearing the statue down? I for one call that a crime yet no one was charged. Also Shifty, I would be interested to here your view on the Twitter post that the Everton fellah did when he went to PSG with a picture of a baboon. Bolasie replied with 3 baboons. Now we canít have it both ways can we? Or can we? My latest take is that the whole race issue thing wants its cake and eat it. Personally I feel the whole thing has been totally over egged. Most of us have left the racist thing behind ages ago. We all should move on positively and stop drawing attention to it. Like when Sterling just laughed at the Chelsea.


6 people were fined £100 each for pulling the statue down, but it was hardly an act of terrorism was it

 

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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag 15 Oct 20 6.13pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by punksnotdead


6 people were fined £100 each for pulling the statue down, but it was hardly an act of terrorism was it

It would have instilled terror into me if I had been there but I take your point.

 

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View Shifty97's Profile Shifty97 Flag Croydon 15 Oct 20 6.28pm Send a Private Message to Shifty97 Add Shifty97 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Have a look around and you will see they are, in a way that you cant or dont want to see. Positive discrimination is happening here and now. Check out the media for the evidence. Not racism but discrimination over colour. Is one worse than the other?

You seriously believe that white people get discriminated the same as ethnic minorities? You have got to be kidding me

 

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View crvenaeagle's Profile crvenaeagle Flag 15 Oct 20 7.43pm Send a Private Message to crvenaeagle Add crvenaeagle as a friend

I note that in the recent international against Denmark at the peep of the whistle Marcud Rashford, along with a few others started to play, whilst the others dropped into the obedience posit-I mean the kneeling position and so the ball had to be returned to the centre circle.

Seems even the players are getting tired of this tripe.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag Chatham 15 Oct 20 8.03pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Shifty97

You seriously believe that white people get discriminated the same as ethnic minorities? You have got to be kidding me

Nope I dont but I just stated a fact as you mentioned discrimination.
I think there is a difference between racism and discrimination. Now do you think positive discrimination against whites is ok and should be allowed because we have racism and had slavery some many years ago.

 

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View Shifty97's Profile Shifty97 Flag Croydon 15 Oct 20 10.10pm Send a Private Message to Shifty97 Add Shifty97 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Nope I dont but I just stated a fact as you mentioned discrimination.
I think there is a difference between racism and discrimination. Now do you think positive discrimination against whites is ok and should be allowed because we have racism and had slavery some many years ago.

I did actually mean to put racism as well as discrimination in my earlier post. Positive discrimination isnít against white people it aims to get more ethnic monorities into a job but it doesnít mean that they just wonít accept white people and positive discrimination is not even used all that much

 

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View Shifty97's Profile Shifty97 Flag Croydon 15 Oct 20 10.25pm Send a Private Message to Shifty97 Add Shifty97 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Even white people.
Music of white origin, white lives matter,white police association etc.
How does that play out.
I would guess it wouldn't very well at all.

But here I meant to say that white people donít experience the same discrimination and racism as ethnic minorities so there isnít really a need for them

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 16 Oct 20 12.24am Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Shifty97

You seriously believe that white people get discriminated the same as ethnic minorities? You have got to be kidding me

Are you saying that white people are more racist than ethnic minorities?

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 16 Oct 20 3.20pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Shifty97

But here I meant to say that white people donít experience the same discrimination and racism as ethnic minorities so there isnít really a need for them

Iíll give you an example of where they are.

If someone is given a job only because of positive discrimination then every white person who also applied for that job has been discriminated against because of a deliberate decision making process that is not based on merit. It doesnít get more racist than that.

Meritocracy is the only true measure of who should get a job. I would be happy if every top job was taken by ethnic minorities if they were the right people for the jobs, but not because some signal virtueing idiot decides they are underrepresented and should therefore be given the role just to balance the books.

 

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View Shifty97's Profile Shifty97 Flag Croydon 16 Oct 20 5.12pm Send a Private Message to Shifty97 Add Shifty97 as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Are you saying that white people are more racist than ethnic minorities?

No

 

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View Shifty97's Profile Shifty97 Flag Croydon 16 Oct 20 5.14pm Send a Private Message to Shifty97 Add Shifty97 as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Iíll give you an example of where they are.

If someone is given a job only because of positive discrimination then every white person who also applied for that job has been discriminated against because of a deliberate decision making process that is not based on merit. It doesnít get more racist than that.

Meritocracy is the only true measure of who should get a job. I would be happy if every top job was taken by ethnic minorities if they were the right people for the jobs, but not because some signal virtueing idiot decides they are underrepresented and should therefore be given the role just to balance the books.

Yes it is racist and therefore unacceptable but this doesnít happen all that much, it is not happening to the same extent that ethnic minorities experience racism or discrimination. Also isnít positive discrimination unlawful?

Edited by Shifty97 (16 Oct 2020 5.30pm)

Edited by Shifty97 (16 Oct 2020 5.43pm)

 

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