And that's the truth of it... Roy is in his final season (as it stands currently) Unless we are in the relegation zone and starting to get cut adrift from the rest there is no way Parish will change things. New managers cost money and Parish will be reluctant to do that...

So unfortunately people we will have to put up with a style of football that I havent seen since Peter Taylor was in charge here and just suck it up.

Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

With respect Willo.

Going through yesterdays line up, only McArthur and Dann are 33. The rest have only recently turned 30 or are about too. That shouldn't be too much of a concern.

We have a glut of midfielders too, so I'm not sure why we are so reliant on McArthur.

The bigger concern is that we are sticking with a formation thats not working which requires playing 4 players out of position.

Are you referring to the football we were playing before Eze because I thought some of our passing was quite pleasant against Liverpool and Villa although our finishing and final ball is nowhere near good enough, MOTD commented that our football is much better to watch now, the problem we have is having the players to make the most of it.

Totally agree. His efforts are judged cumulatively not on 2 bad results . Yes I’d like someone else but tbh there is no one more risk averse than RH currently. Sad but true ...

Dust ourselves off and go again, I’m afraid. We’ll pick up the necessary points to stay up and that’s all we can expect and hope for ... IMHO

But what are they trying to play? This team looks like a Sunday pub team! No shape (Roy's speciality subject), no discipline, no desire - all facets of the game that fall under Roy's jurisdiction. Roy gives them instructions and sends them out to play, what you see is his planning. Or is PVA always out of position because he doesn't listen to Roy's instructions? If so, why is he always selected? I thought Roy (according to Ray) was one of those types that if you don't do as he says, you don't get a look in?
It seems to me that Roy has lost the players, they look confused and leaderless, with no clear idea of what they need to achieve and how to achieve it.
Of course there is no excuse for the obvious lack of effort, but again this stems back to the manager - it's his job to motivate and inspire, but if you listened to the Villa post match interview, Roy is uninspiring, snappy and defensive, with the usual "if this if that" waffle.
The cold fact of the matter is the players didn't react to the thumping by Liverpool, facing a team down to 10 men for 45 minutes. As a manager paid to sort that stuff out, Roy failed.

What style is that we have no style the players have given up the hungry players aint given no chances our best player has tried to leave 3 seasons in a row our CBs can't stay fit for more then 2 games we have a top LB prospect on the bench with a s***e one on the pitch despite Mitchell playing better. We have luka as captain who shouldn't even be on the pitch McCarthur who is 33 being asked to run around like a nutter. Its nonsense Roy is taking us down the last 30 games have been as bad as Pardews run. Allardyce came in and got more out of the squad I believe we can get somebody else who can to.