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glazedallover Allier 30 Jan 21 7.43pm
Originally posted by PatrickA I have supported Palace for over 50 years. I don't believe I'm spoilt. I would like a new manager next season. and if I don't get one I shall just thcream and thcream and thcream until I am thick, said violet Elizabeth......
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glazedallover

Allier 30 Jan 21 7.43pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

I have supported Palace for over 50 years.
I don't believe I'm spoilt.
I would like a new manager next season.

and if I don't get one I shall just thcream and thcream and thcream until I am thick, said violet Elizabeth......

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AuntyAnne70 Tunbridge WElls 30 Jan 21 7.45pm
The batterings have been so big that we're not in the relegation zone.
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Tunbridge WElls 30 Jan 21 7.45pm

The batterings have been so big that we're not in the relegation zone.

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TheBigToePunt 30 Jan 21 7.48pm
Originally posted by AuntyAnne70 The batterings have been so big that we're not in the relegation zone. Or anywhere near it, now or ever over the last three years. That's Hodgsons bloody fault that is, the idiot. Edited by TheBigToePunt (30 Jan 2021 7.50pm)
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30 Jan 21 7.48pm

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

The batterings have been so big that we're not in the relegation zone.

Or anywhere near it, now or ever over the last three years.

That's Hodgsons bloody fault that is, the idiot.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (30 Jan 2021 7.50pm)

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TheBigToePunt 30 Jan 21 7.49pm
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PatrickA London 30 Jan 21 8.00pm
We win a match and you're spoilt if you want a new manager next season! Alternative opinions aren't allowed it would seem. Strangely enough I never thought we are in relegation danger despite even some Hodgson fans fearing the worst. I take a more rounded view of our performances over the last year and am not swayed by an isolated victory or defeat. He can leave at the end of the season having achieved the same as Pulis,Allardyce and Pardew in keeping us up.No more no less. Although in fairness at least Pardew had a go in the FA Cup.
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London 30 Jan 21 8.00pm

We win a match and you're spoilt if you want a new manager next season!
Alternative opinions aren't allowed it would seem.
Strangely enough I never thought we are in relegation danger despite even some Hodgson fans fearing the worst.
I take a more rounded view of our performances over the last year and am not swayed by an isolated victory or defeat.
He can leave at the end of the season having achieved the same as Pulis,Allardyce and Pardew in keeping us up.No more no less.
Although in fairness at least Pardew had a go in the FA Cup.

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TheBigToePunt 30 Jan 21 8.04pm
Originally posted by PatrickA We win a match and you're spoilt if you want a new manager next season! Alternative opinions aren't allowed it would seem. Strangely enough I never thought we are in relegation danger despite even some Hodgson fans fearing the worst. I take a more rounded view of our performances over the last year and am not swayed by an isolated victory or defeat. He can leave at the end of the season having achieved the same as Pulis,Allardyce and Pardew in keeping us up.No more no less. Although in fairness at least Pardew had a go in the FA Cup. With a lot less spent.
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30 Jan 21 8.04pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

We win a match and you're spoilt if you want a new manager next season!
Alternative opinions aren't allowed it would seem.
Strangely enough I never thought we are in relegation danger despite even some Hodgson fans fearing the worst.
I take a more rounded view of our performances over the last year and am not swayed by an isolated victory or defeat.
He can leave at the end of the season having achieved the same as Pulis,Allardyce and Pardew in keeping us up.No more no less.
Although in fairness at least Pardew had a go in the FA Cup.

With a lot less spent.

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Ali_Campbell New Addington 30 Jan 21 8.07pm
Originally posted by PatrickA We win a match and you're spoilt if you want a new manager next season! Alternative opinions aren't allowed it would seem. Strangely enough I never thought we are in relegation danger despite even some Hodgson fans fearing the worst. I take a more rounded view of our performances over the last year and am not swayed by an isolated victory or defeat. He can leave at the end of the season having achieved the same as Pulis,Allardyce and Pardew in keeping us up.No more no less. Although in fairness at least Pardew had a go in the FA Cup. With no budget. Can you imagine if we actually backed him or brought players that he wanted like the other managers.
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Ali_Campbell

New Addington 30 Jan 21 8.07pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

With no budget. Can you imagine if we actually backed him or brought players that he wanted like the other managers.

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PatrickA London 30 Jan 21 8.15pm
I cannot accept the argument about money, even though I acknowledge we haven't really invested under Hodgson. He inherited a squad with significant sums already spent on Benteke, Sakho, Cabaye, Tomkins, PVA ,Luka, Schlupp and Townsend. Well in excess of £100 million. Add Zaha too and that's not too shabby as a basis for a team. You can argue that some of those have not proved to be value for money, but that's a different argument.
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PatrickA

London 30 Jan 21 8.15pm

I cannot accept the argument about money, even though I acknowledge we haven't really invested under Hodgson.
He inherited a squad with significant sums already spent on Benteke, Sakho, Cabaye, Tomkins, PVA ,Luka, Schlupp and Townsend.
Well in excess of £100 million.
Add Zaha too and that's not too shabby as a basis for a team.
You can argue that some of those have not proved to be value for money, but that's a different argument.

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Mstrobez 30 Jan 21 8.25pm
Originally posted by PatrickA I cannot accept the argument about money, even though I acknowledge we haven't really invested under Hodgson. He inherited a squad with significant sums already spent on Benteke, Sakho, Cabaye, Tomkins, PVA ,Luka, Schlupp and Townsend. Well in excess of £100 million. Add Zaha too and that's not too shabby as a basis for a team. You can argue that some of those have not proved to be value for money, but that's a different argument. Relegation signings signed by managers who demanded backing as a prerequisite of them coming in to keep us up. For all the talk that Roy was "forced" into giving the youth (AWB + Mitchell) a go, he still did give them a go. Sam & Pulis walked before it got to to that stage. AWB would've never happened under either of them. Whether you like Roy or not, he is not the same league of manager as the Pulis & Sams of this world and it's frankly an insult to suggest he is. We're the Arthur over ere!
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Mstrobez

30 Jan 21 8.25pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

Relegation signings signed by managers who demanded backing as a prerequisite of them coming in to keep us up. For all the talk that Roy was "forced" into giving the youth (AWB + Mitchell) a go, he still did give them a go.

Sam & Pulis walked before it got to to that stage. AWB would've never happened under either of them.

Whether you like Roy or not, he is not the same league of manager as the Pulis & Sams of this world and it's frankly an insult to suggest he is.

We're the Arthur over ere!

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 30 Jan 21 8.28pm
Originally posted by Cpfc1861 I still want him out happy we won mind you but one 1 0 win doesn't rule out the battering we have been on the end of. Thank goodness the decision isn't yours to make. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 30 Jan 21 8.28pm

Originally posted by Cpfc1861

I still want him out happy we won mind you but one 1 0 win doesn't rule out the battering we have been on the end of.

Thank goodness the decision isn't yours to make.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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TheBigToePunt 30 Jan 21 8.32pm
Originally posted by PatrickA I cannot accept the argument about money, even though I acknowledge we haven't really invested under Hodgson. He inherited a squad with significant sums already spent on Benteke, Sakho, Cabaye, Tomkins, PVA ,Luka, Schlupp and Townsend. Well in excess of £100 million. Add Zaha too and that's not too shabby as a basis for a team. You can argue that some of those have not proved to be value for money, but that's a different argument. No its not, its the same argument. Hodgsons predecessors didn't like what they worked with and got replacements. Roy didn't. You can't point to players who, by and large, are widely considered poor value for money as evidence that Roy has had the benefit of investment.
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TheBigToePunt

30 Jan 21 8.32pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

I cannot accept the argument about money, even though I acknowledge we haven't really invested under Hodgson.
He inherited a squad with significant sums already spent on Benteke, Sakho, Cabaye, Tomkins, PVA ,Luka, Schlupp and Townsend.
Well in excess of £100 million.
Add Zaha too and that's not too shabby as a basis for a team.
You can argue that some of those have not proved to be value for money, but that's a different argument.

No its not, its the same argument. Hodgsons predecessors didn't like what they worked with and got replacements. Roy didn't.

You can't point to players who, by and large, are widely considered poor value for money as evidence that Roy has had the benefit of investment.

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PatrickA London 30 Jan 21 8.37pm
The statements that Pulls and Allardyce would not have played AWB or Mitchell, and that Hodgson is a superior manager to both are opinions, not facts. To my mind the greatest achievement in keeping us up was the one engineered by Pulis with essentially a Championship squad. But that is an opinion and not a fact. And possibly not a popular opinion because of the way he left and the perception that he is not a gentleman.
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London 30 Jan 21 8.37pm

The statements that Pulls and Allardyce would not have played AWB or Mitchell, and that Hodgson is a superior manager to both are opinions, not facts.
To my mind the greatest achievement in keeping us up was the one engineered by Pulis with essentially a Championship squad.
But that is an opinion and not a fact.
And possibly not a popular opinion because of the way he left and the perception that he is not a gentleman.

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