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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 14 Nov 20 6.04am Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

I may be in the minority here, but last week, we beat Leeds 4-1, it was on the telly for me and I was just not interested, I was farting about around the house listening as it happened and yeah, I was happy we won but it didn't move me, I wasn't impacted by it all.

Maybe the fact fans aren't there or the fact the league seems shallow, corrupt with PPV and the possible breakaway league.. or the fact that the style of play hs put me off or the lack or characters..

I'm not sure, but I just feel it's pointless right now.. I want fans back in the ground, I want a few more players that connect with fans and excite us.. it just feels... too commercially constructed.. it doesn't feel like the palace I grew up with.

 


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View Sayer's Profile Sayer Flag East Sussex 14 Nov 20 8.03am Send a Private Message to Sayer Add Sayer as a friend

Nothing feels like what we grew up with at the moment, I’m afraid

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Nov 20 8.22am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Sayer

Nothing feels like what we grew up with at the moment, I’m afraid

It terms of football, gone are the days of rosettes and rattles and standing on rain-lashed terraces watching teams playing on mud baths.
After matches, a stream of supporters walking near someone with a transistor radio to ascertain the final scores.


Edited by Willo (15 Nov 2020 10.29am)

 

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View stuckinbristol's Profile stuckinbristol Flag In the woodwork. 14 Nov 20 8.31am Send a Private Message to stuckinbristol Add stuckinbristol as a friend

I am trying not to get excited but...
Last Saturday I couldn't decide whether to bother watching or not, finally decided to give it a go, despite knowing we would get a tonking. Glued to the pc, glugging bottles of beer, furiously reloading when the stream dropped out, and cheering every goal.
Just can't shake this team off!

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 14 Nov 20 8.55am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I started following football in the 1960s and it doesn’t have the same emotional pull now, although I still enjoy watching skilful players and feel more content when Palace do well.
When I started watching as a boy the older generation of supporters would reminisce about the likes of Matthews and Finney and suggest that Alf Ramsay’s World Cup winning wingless wonders had ruined football.
Perhaps we’re all guilty of indulging in rose tinted nostalgia.

Things in modern football I could do without
- it being described as ‘a product’
- VAR
- greed of the big clubs
- political profile of some top players
- replacement of professional TV presenters like Des Lynam by the likes of Lineker
- the relative expense.

I used to go to every Palace home game and would take in another London game when Palace were away - from QPR, Spurs, Chelsea to Arsenal.
No membership or advance purchase was required and you would just turn up at the turnstiles and pay cash.
My children don’t believe me when I describe how easy it used to be to follow football.

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 14 Nov 20 9.07am

Originally posted by PatrickA

I started following football in the 1960s and it doesn’t have the same emotional pull now, although I still enjoy watching skilful players and feel more content when Palace do well.
When I started watching as a boy the older generation of supporters would reminisce about the likes of Matthews and Finney and suggest that Alf Ramsay’s World Cup winning wingless wonders had ruined football.
Perhaps we’re all guilty of indulging in rose tinted nostalgia.

Things in modern football I could do without
- it being described as ‘a product’
- VAR
- greed of the big clubs
- political profile of some top players
- replacement of professional TV presenters like Des Lynam by the likes of Lineker
- the relative expense.

I used to go to every Palace home game and would take in another London game when Palace were away - from QPR, Spurs, Chelsea to Arsenal.
No membership or advance purchase was required and you would just turn up at the turnstiles and pay cash.
My children don’t believe me when I describe how easy it used to be to follow football.


Absolutely spot on.

When younger I would decide an hour before the game if I was going to go or not.

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Nov 20 9.17am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I started following football in the 1960s and it doesn’t have the same emotional pull now, although I still enjoy watching skilful players and feel more content when Palace do well.
When I started watching as a boy the older generation of supporters would reminisce about the likes of Matthews and Finney and suggest that Alf Ramsay’s World Cup winning wingless wonders had ruined football.
Perhaps we’re all guilty of indulging in rose tinted nostalgia.

Things in modern football I could do without
- it being described as ‘a product’
- VAR
- greed of the big clubs
- political profile of some top players
- replacement of professional TV presenters like Des Lynam by the likes of Lineker
- the relative expense.

I used to go to every Palace home game and would take in another London game when Palace were away - from QPR, Spurs, Chelsea to Arsenal.
No membership or advance purchase was required and you would just turn up at the turnstiles and pay cash.
My children don’t believe me when I describe how easy it used to be to follow football.

When Lineker first came on the scene as a presenter I couldn't help thinking he was trying to be Des Lynam MK 2.He will never achieve such an exalted status.Des Lynam actually lives not too far removed from my abode.

Football is now a 'World' apart from the days when I first supported the club in the 60s and beyond, both on and off the pitch.There are pros and cons of course and one could spend several hours over a tipple or two in a public house pontificating about the changes.

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 14 Nov 20 9.19am

Originally posted by Vaibow

I may be in the minority here, but last week, we beat Leeds 4-1, it was on the telly for me and I was just not interested, I was farting about around the house listening as it happened and yeah, I was happy we won but it didn't move me, I wasn't impacted by it all.

Maybe the fact fans aren't there or the fact the league seems shallow, corrupt with PPV and the possible breakaway league.. or the fact that the style of play hs put me off or the lack or characters..

I'm not sure, but I just feel it's pointless right now.. I want fans back in the ground, I want a few more players that connect with fans and excite us.. it just feels... too commercially constructed.. it doesn't feel like the palace I grew up with.

I get it. Football is separate to any other hobbies etc. We don’t go because we want to or choose to, we go because it’s who we are. It forms part of our identity, gives us something to cling to and call our own.
Its our generations version of going to war, chanting, drums/flags etc.

In a world which is so transient it’s a constant. Been going all my life, many of my family who took me as a kid are no longer around, have been with old girlfriends, countless friends etc, some of who I’m still in contact with and some I’m not. Palace is a constant though. Every year up until now I have been able to show up at Selhurst and watch two hours of crap, shout and moan. I miss the little things, going to the pub before and after, meeting my mates who I only know at football. Going to the chicken shop and chatting to the regulars.

Football without fans isn’t football. It’s a product.

Still watch, still want us to do well, but to me it isn’t football

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 14 Nov 20 9.41am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

For those that don't attend matches, I don't suppose it is too different but for those of us that did it just isn't the same. We need to get through this season without relegation and then kick on next season, hopefully with crowds back in the stadium.

Although I want us to do well this season, if we start playing lovey football and winning home matches, it would mean so much less to me as I wasn't there to see it. To go to the Players Bar then on to the Clifton after a win.

Worse for Dirty Leeds fans as this could be their only season in the PL and they weren't there to see it. Looking unlikely at the moment but it is possible.

Still worse still if any clubs go under because of this.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 14 Nov 20 9.52am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

I get it. Football is separate to any other hobbies etc. We don’t go because we want to or choose to, we go because it’s who we are. It forms part of our identity, gives us something to cling to and call our own.
Its our generations version of going to war, chanting, drums/flags etc.

In a world which is so transient it’s a constant. Been going all my life, many of my family who took me as a kid are no longer around, have been with old girlfriends, countless friends etc, some of who I’m still in contact with and some I’m not. Palace is a constant though. Every year up until now I have been able to show up at Selhurst and watch two hours of crap, shout and moan. I miss the little things, going to the pub before and after, meeting my mates who I only know at football. Going to the chicken shop and chatting to the regulars.

Football without fans isn’t football. It’s a product.

Still watch, still want us to do well, but to me it isn’t football

At work there was a useful shorthand for when a new bloke started - what’s he like? He’s West Ham, he’s Tottenham, etc and the preconceptions were surprisingly accurate. Didn’t always work; he’s Brentford was met with blank stares.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 14 Nov 20 10.26am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle


Absolutely spot on.

When younger I would decide an hour before the game if I was going to go or not.

indeed and I remember turning up along with 51,000 others on that famous night against Burnley, bought my ticket and got in (despite the fact our official capacity was only 47,000).

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 14 Nov 20 10.28am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

When Lineker first came on the scene as a presenter I couldn't help thinking he was trying to be Des Lynam MK 2.He will never achieve such an exalted status.Des Lynam actually lives not too far removed from my abode.

Football is now a 'World' apart from the days when I first supported the club in the 60s and beyond, both on and off the pitch.There are pros and cons of course and one could spend several hours over a tipple or two in a public house pontificating about the changes.


Only one or two, Willo?

 

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