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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 15 Feb 21 7.39pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

He meant that kneeling is an empty jesture. Especially when he is racially abused on social media and nothing is done about it.

"Why should I have to kneel for people to think that my life matters?"

He also didn't agree with companies and organisations who asked him to be their voice or spokesperson on the subject of race when they don't actually care and are using his name for lip service.

So what I wrote basically. The reference to whites was purely because of reactions by black people to questioning the reason behind kneeling. Something you have done yourself. I didnt mean he took it upon himself to help whites get an opinion out there which may offend wokes.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 15 Feb 21 7.54pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

I find it interesting though that taking the knee has actually had an adverse effect.

Since this started it has stoked feelings which had been pretty much laid dormant.

Get rid of it. Itís setting back race relations, not improving them.

making the cops look like clowns, as they took the knee.

priceless

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 15 Feb 21 7.56pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

He meant that kneeling is an empty jesture. Especially when he is racially abused on social media and nothing is done about it.

"Why should I have to kneel for people to think that my life matters?"

He also didn't agree with companies and organisations who asked him to be their voice or spokesperson on the subject of race when they don't actually care and are using his name for lip service.

I agree with him.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 15 Feb 21 7.58pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

making the cops look like clowns, as they took the knee.

priceless

No itís Gay Pride when they look like clowns. During a BLM riot they look subservient.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 15 Feb 21 9.46pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

No itís Gay Pride when they look like clowns. During a BLM riot they look subservient.

The modern Police who join up now are filtered globalists and leftists.

If you are a conservative they are against the concepts you believe in.

We live in a clown world.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Feb 2021 9.46pm)

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Feb 21 9.03pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

This charade has reached new levels of dumbarsery.

Wilf says taking the knee is degrading. Really Wilf?

Sky Sports reporting that online racial abuse is being normalized.

How stupid or cynical can this get? Are we really to believe that those behind Sky are not fully aware that publicizing every incidence of abuse was always going to make it much worse than the almost non existent level it was before they started all this tedious crap?

Now footballers will try to extract themselves from this farce a few at a time claiming that it isn't working or just insert any other face saving excuse you prefer.

Hello! Anyone with half a brain could have told you where this was heading.

I suppose that excludes 99% of footballers.

 

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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 18 Feb 21 11.45pm Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

well done to Wilf for speaking up I agree with you

 

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View madcap_v2's Profile madcap_v2 Flag San Antonio de Portmany, Ibiza 19 Feb 21 12.06pm Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This charade has reached new levels of dumbarsery.

Wilf says taking the knee is degrading. Really Wilf?

Sky Sports reporting that online racial abuse is being normalized.

How stupid or cynical can this get? Are we really to believe that those behind Sky are not fully aware that publicizing every incidence of abuse was always going to make it much worse than the almost non existent level it was before they started all this tedious crap?

Now footballers will try to extract themselves from this farce a few at a time claiming that it isn't working or just insert any other face saving excuse you prefer.

Hello! Anyone with half a brain could have told you where this was heading.

I suppose that excludes 99% of footballers.

How can you suggest this was non-existent? Show your working please.

 


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View Swindy's Profile Swindy Flag Bromley 19 Feb 21 12.16pm Send a Private Message to Swindy Add Swindy as a friend

Nothing changes until social media companies take proper control of their operations and properly identify and punish those faceless, cowardly keyboard warriors spitting their racist poison - don't hold your breath on that one, too much money involved !
In the meantime, taking the knee has become a cliche which was always likely.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 19 Feb 21 5.21pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

How can you suggest this was non-existent? Show your working please.

He said virtually non existent in relation to general crimes and abuse. Have you got evidence to the contrary.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 19 Feb 21 6.51pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

How can you suggest this was non-existent? Show your working please.

I was totally unaware of any significant racism related to football since the '80s other than the usual knuckleheads at Millwall, the usual Sectarian stuff in Scotland and the occasional visit to an Eastern European county where most have rarely seen a Black man.

Where was this big problem before the media and Sky in particular, started their ridiculous campaign?

 

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View Plumpton eagle's Profile Plumpton eagle Flag East Sussex 19 Feb 21 7.00pm Send a Private Message to Plumpton eagle Add Plumpton eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The modern Police who join up now are filtered globalists and leftists.

If you are a conservative they are against the concepts you believe in.

We live in a clown world.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Feb 2021 9.46pm)

A clown world indeed.

Just because you say it, doesn't make it true. Just because you believe it, doesn't make it true. Just because you appear happy to be deranged, doesn't excuse your extremist postings.

My son is a police officer (and Palace season ticket holder) and your depiction of him and apparently all serving officers, is offensive.

But.......that's why you say these things. It's for the attention. Your user name gives the game away. Anyone that ends their name with "says" is either arrogant or attention seeking or probably both.

I use HOL to feed my Palace addiction. You use it in a sad attempt to try and be noticed and be "someone". You usually stick to News and Politics section where there are some others like you.

I know I shouldn't bite because it's what you want. But if people don't call you out, it may be assumed that all HOL members share your extremist views.

You must lead a really sad and unfulfilling real life to be so desperate to be noticed on a Palace fans forum. Particularly, when you rarely seem to post about Palace or football.

I don't know if you have an employer but I bet they would not want to be associated with your views. Why don't you tell us who they are and if they filter out people that you consider to be undesirables?

I support Wilf and his views. I have been in favour of taking a knee but can see that the gesture is now losing it's impact. Hopefully Wilf's stance will be part of moving the fight against racism forward in a collaborative way. There is clearly still work to be done!

 

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