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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 22 Jul 21 4.46pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Agree. European football will be a big factor especially for a player who has spent time at Liverpool. Think he may see us as to small an option, unless the PV pull works it’s magic

...and more likely appearances.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 22 Jul 21 4.56pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I hope this isn't one of those deals where we do all the groundwork agree a fee and then another club normally West Ham come along and say yup that'll do.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 22 Jul 21 5.05pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I hope this isn't one of those deals where we do all the groundwork agree a fee and then another club normally West Ham come along and say yup that'll do.

According to the rumour mill there are a number of other clubs showing interest in him

 

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View Croydon-Trucker's Profile Croydon-Trucker Flag Cahir 22 Jul 21 5.14pm Send a Private Message to Croydon-Trucker Add Croydon-Trucker as a friend

I was talking to an Irish scouser today in the gym , he says this guy is terrible , he described him as the Benteke of defending .

 

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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 22 Jul 21 5.17pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I hope this isn't one of those deals where we do all the groundwork agree a fee and then another club normally West Ham come along and say yup that'll do.

It could work out like that. It might be the reason, considering the club don’t appear to making big demands, And so we are told he has a stream of admirers, yet no one has made that vital offer.
As it has been said here it could revolve around the player himself, and agent making terms with any of those clubs .Have a bid accepted and your cards are on the table.

Edited by Putitout (22 Jul 2021 5.18pm)

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 22 Jul 21 7.51pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

I was talking to an Irish scouser today in the gym , he says this guy is terrible , he described him as the Benteke of defending .

Think of the CB for Liverpool he has to compare him to. All CBs look like Benteke in defence by comparison.

 

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View Elphers40's Profile Elphers40 Flag Northants 22 Jul 21 8.26pm Send a Private Message to Elphers40 Add Elphers40 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I hope this isn't one of those deals where we do all the groundwork agree a fee and then another club normally West Ham come along and say yup that'll do.

I know what you mean Badger.

But I think this is where PV adds some value - in terms of the pulling power of his reputation and achievements as a player.

It does make me feel a little more confident in our appeal over our rivals - especially with SP saying recently how hands on PV has been in meeting targets and adding his input before they sign.

I Don’t think Cooper would have the same draw!

 

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View Mathers's Profile Mathers Flag 22 Jul 21 8.48pm Send a Private Message to Mathers Add Mathers as a friend

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

As much as I’d like a new CB I’m also really happy with the new lad Marc.G and Tomkins playing for us at the back. I’m really hoping we see Ferguson this season as well as he could be a real player for us.

We need at least 4 or 5 senior CBs to get through the season. Assuming Guehi and Tomkins are 1st choice. We have Kouyate as makeshift CB and Kelly who didn’t play a single minute of football last season as back up. We still need at least 1 more top class CB.

If we can get Kabak for £10million or less than it’s another very good deal. Low risk with his age and international experience. I didn’t see enough of him at Liverpool to see if he is cut out for the Prem but 6 month taster certainly wouldn’t have hurt.

 

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View Ali_Campbell's Profile Ali_Campbell Flag New Addington 22 Jul 21 9.06pm Send a Private Message to Ali_Campbell Add Ali_Campbell as a friend

Kouyate is not a “makeshift” cb. All you hear every time we play is that he is midfielder and therefore alludes to it being a weakness and he shouldn’t be there,

He has played for us all season at cb. He plays for his country at cb. He is not a makeshift center back. He is actually a centre back as well as a midfielder.

There is an old perception that if you are labelled a midfielder, you therefore annoy be anything else. Dion Dublin (gosh, showing my age) was a cracking centre back.

….we do need another centre half and Kabak would be good. But I would be happy if Kouyate aswell. I thought he did well last year and one was of our consistent performers

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 22 Jul 21 9.15pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Ali_Campbell

Kouyate is not a “makeshift” cb. All you hear every time we play is that he is midfielder and therefore alludes to it being a weakness and he shouldn’t be there,

He has played for us all season at cb. He plays for his country at cb. He is not a makeshift center back. He is actually a centre back as well as a midfielder.

There is an old perception that if you are labelled a midfielder, you therefore annoy be anything else. Dion Dublin (gosh, showing my age) was a cracking centre back.

….we do need another centre half and Kabak would be good. But I would be happy if Kouyate aswell. I thought he did well last year and one was of our consistent performers

Enough cover DM if Mac#2 doesn't return (likely)?

 

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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 22 Jul 21 9.45pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

We have off loaded three experienced central defenders. It took all three of them plus Tompkins, and Kouyate, to get us through the last two seasons. There can not be any doubt that we need more in that position than what we possess right now. I would like to see some experience in any signing, whether Kabak, represents that might not be the case.. We definitely need more in the position, In my opinion it’s two we could do with, unless someone is actually coming through from the under twenty threes.
Where Kouyate, is concerned he is just as needed in mid field as in defence, and the truth is we are light in both positions even if Mc,Carthy, was to stay..

 

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View Mathers's Profile Mathers Flag 22 Jul 21 11.10pm Send a Private Message to Mathers Add Mathers as a friend

Originally posted by Ali_Campbell

Kouyate is not a “makeshift” cb. All you hear every time we play is that he is midfielder and therefore alludes to it being a weakness and he shouldn’t be there,

He has played for us all season at cb. He plays for his country at cb. He is not a makeshift center back. He is actually a centre back as well as a midfielder.

There is an old perception that if you are labelled a midfielder, you therefore annoy be anything else. Dion Dublin (gosh, showing my age) was a cracking centre back.

….we do need another centre half and Kabak would be good. But I would be happy if Kouyate aswell. I thought he did well last year and one was of our consistent performers

He’s makeshift in the sense he isn’t a career centre half. He isn’t a standout/ dominant CB for sure. Made lots of errors last season in terms of positioning or weak clearances that directly led to goals.

I think he’s stuck between two positions( similar to Eric Dier). If Guehi and Tomkins are fit, I think he either moves into midfield or he’s on the bench.

 

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