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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Apr 21 8.26am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Apparently the government can;t count which is nit surprising considering they underestimated the number of EU nationals living in the UK by 1mm.

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These numbers matter how else do we know how we are are doing.

 


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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 23 Apr 21 10.56am Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Ever tried the Metro B?

More than 440 financial firms have shifted thousands of jobs and £1 trillion of assets out of the UK and into the EU because of Brexit, with more pain still to come.

Still maybe, but I actually doubt it, the EU will buy more of our crustaceans..........

I never experienced as a foreign worker in Germany, any such 'difficulties' at all, quite the reverse.

You simply have to obey the law as you would anywhere.

The UK wanted it that way, and that's what it got.

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 23 Apr 21 11.44am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

I think that's 2-1 then

 

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 23 Apr 21 11.53am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

A minor victory in the shellfish dispute.

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Most of the problems with exporting are down to the EU playing games. Hopefully they will realise that this damages them as much as us silly to get into a trade war when these issues are easily resolved.

Meanwhile expats in the EU are finding life being made very difficult for them. Imagine the outcry in this country if we had done the same to their expats.

Edited by Badger11 (18 Apr 2021 9.24am)

not true, I am an expat and no such thing is happening, unless they are flying under the radar ie re tax

Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 11.55am)

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 28 Apr 21 4.57pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Brexit strikes 'and once again a heart is broke'.

Arlene bites the dust, her country voted against brexit, now they see how they were just a sacrificial pawn.

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

Brexit strikes 'and once again a heart is broke'.

Arlene bites the dust, her country voted against brexit, now they see how they were just a sacrificial pawn.

Give it a rest

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Apr 21 6.25pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

not true, I am an expat and no such thing is happening, unless they are flying under the radar ie re tax

Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 11.55am)

Well it varies by country but you may have a point. According to this lots of Brits have not taken out residency as they are still claiming benefits from the UK. If true I have no sympathy.

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 29 Apr 21 7.21pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Interesting article about the hospitality sector.

Lots of complaints from employers about lack of EU staff.

Anyway EU staff numbers down and UK numbers up, good.

The Mail is negative but I think this is a good thing. Once we are out of lock down and government support ends people will need jobs so I guess this is one area for them to look to.

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 29 Apr 21 7.27pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Interesting article about the hospitality sector.

Lots of complaints from employers about lack of EU staff.

Anyway EU staff numbers down and UK numbers up, good.

The Mail is negative but I think this is a good thing. Once we are out of lock down and government support ends people will need jobs so I guess this is one area for them to look to.

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I suspect the UK will, within 24 months, open up the UK jobs market to EU citizens. Freedom of movement was actually a big success for the UK as a whole with EU citizens creating a tax surplus. It is non-EU migration that causes ALL of our social problems. You never read about Polish grooming gangs or hordes of Germans dominating the heroin trade and so on.

Yes, something had to be done about freedom of movement but it was far more nuanced than many on the Right are willing to concede and in many ways, if you accept the notion that the UK by dint of its open economy, needs workers, we were far better off getting them from Europe than the Commonwealth.

 


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Originally posted by Matov

I suspect the UK will, within 24 months, open up the UK jobs market to EU citizens. Freedom of movement was actually a big success for the UK as a whole with EU citizens creating a tax surplus. It is non-EU migration that causes ALL of our social problems. You never read about Polish grooming gangs or hordes of Germans dominating the heroin trade and so on.

Yes, something had to be done about freedom of movement but it was far more nuanced than many on the Right are willing to concede and in many ways, if you accept the notion that the UK by dint of its open economy, needs workers, we were far better off getting them from Europe than the Commonwealth.

Economically we are still in a false position as we are not out of lock down fully and the government is still shaking the money tree and unemployment will probably still go up.

In the next 3 months I think things will change. A new batch of school leavers will be in the market for jobs and people who are unemployed may decide to settle for a job that is not their first choice.

We should only be recruiting unskilled staff from in or out of the EU once unemployment is down to low levels.

I find it encouraging that the number of Brits in the hospitality sector is going up as it should do. The idea that British people can't or won't do those roles is nonsense.

 


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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 29 Apr 21 9.04pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

I suspect the UK will, within 24 months, open up the UK jobs market to EU citizens. Freedom of movement was actually a big success for the UK as a whole with EU citizens creating a tax surplus. It is non-EU migration that causes ALL of our social problems. You never read about Polish grooming gangs or hordes of Germans dominating the heroin trade and so on.

Yes, something had to be done about freedom of movement but it was far more nuanced than many on the Right are willing to concede and in many ways, if you accept the notion that the UK by dint of its open economy, needs workers, we were far better off getting them from Europe than the Commonwealth.


Why does the UK require any overseas workers except those that are highly skilled?
We have enough people who can work in Costa or drive delivery vans. All open borders have done is drive up rents and house prices and freeze wages.
How about this as a novel approach, start training up our own people? Offer more apprenticeships, make work far more financially rewarding than benefits.
Australia is booming and they only take in who they want. Britain was doing just fine before 2004, now people think we canít survive without an endless supply of cheap labour. Rubbish.

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 29 Apr 21 9.14pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

By the way, I think that the UK will be in the sh@te when it comes to the job market.

Nothing to do with Brexit, but the effect Covid has had on how we work.

I have friends who work at Canary Wharf who have not been to their office now for over a year. If big companies now realise that staff can be employed anywhere then they will soon stop paying high London wages and office rents. Expect to see many of these jobs outsourced, in the same way things like call centres were only these will be the big earners.
Wonít just be us, will be a general levelling up around the world.

Trust me, In the next ten years, London, the driving force of our economy, may be a different place.

 


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