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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 01 Jun 21 9.53am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Nicely googled, apart from that?

Btw, I love the self righteous pomposity of your " that is incorrect ", please use it more, can become your catch phrase

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 01 Jun 21 9.55am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Doesn't really make sense to award a medal to something that didn't inflict the wounds, just saying.

Originally posted by steeleye20

The public really ought to wake up to Truss and her spectacularly bad trade deals.

The Australian deal deserves a medal for self inflicting wounds on our farmers.

Hopefully we will realise the damage industrial meat production is doing to the planet not least its link to the pandemic, and reject USA and other obnoxious trade deals involving animals crammed together.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Jun 21 10.15am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I hadn't realised that Tory farmers had so many supporters amongst the left.

We don't know the details of the deal yet but farmers have been supported by the taxpayers for decades and what have we got in return, BSE, foot and mouth, salmonella and various other health issues and environmental concerns.

If we are to continue to subsidise them then they should move away from battery hens etc.

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 01 Jun 21 11.03am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

So you assume all farmers are Conservatives ?

Originally posted by Badger11

I hadn't realised that Tory farmers had so many supporters amongst the left.

We don't know the details of the deal yet but farmers have been supported by the taxpayers for decades and what have we got in return, BSE, foot and mouth, salmonella and various other health issues and environmental concerns.

If we are to continue to subsidise them then they should move away from battery hens etc.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Jun 21 11.20am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

So you assume all farmers are Conservatives ?

Yes it is an assumption that most are.

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 01 Jun 21 11.38am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Opinions are what the forums are about.

Can I ask why do you use " Tory " rather than Conservative.

Do you think it's a good perjorative word and fits well into the narrative.

The last leader of the Tory Party was the Duke of Wellington.

Edited by HKOwen (01 Jun 2021 11.47am)

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Jun 21 1.41pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Opinions are what the forums are about.

Can I ask why do you use " Tory " rather than Conservative.

Do you think it's a good perjorative word and fits well into the narrative.

The last leader of the Tory Party was the Duke of Wellington.

Edited by HKOwen (01 Jun 2021 11.47am)

I have voted conservative all my life I used Tory as I was being lazy with my typing.

 


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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 01 Jun 21 1.53pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

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Some more good news.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 01 Jun 21 2.40pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen


Apart from one aspect specific to sheep have you googled about other livestock welfare?

I can google too, museling is a process to prevent a disease called flystrike which causes a slow agonizing death ( per google )

Did it bother you as much pre Brexit?

UK currently imports about 0.3% of Australia's wool exports, Italy and Czech Republic by comparison around 1% each.

So all in all, it's a rubbish example to try and use the criticise the free trade deal under negotiation.

Edited by HKOwen (01 Jun 2021 8.50am)

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Edited by HKOwen (01 Jun 2021 9.52am)

I am sure you are aware of my interest in farming, and especially in sheep farming.

Wool has no value, it costs more to shear than you can sell it for. The UK effectively throws most of it away

Australia mass produces sheep for meat. The mass production approach has many down sides

Australian lamb is not nearly as good as UK lamb either.

 

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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 01 Jun 21 3.48pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

OK

Originally posted by Jimenez

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Some more good news.

"The move, which is still under review at the company's US headquarters, would create 50 full-time jobs at the factory"

Yep, definitely worth throwing away £billions of business from the financial & services industry, freedom of movement to the rest the EU, putting peace in NI at risk and decimating the fishing and farming industries. Really good business model, impressive.


Edited by Orange1290 (01 Jun 2021 3.50pm)

 


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Originally posted by Mapletree

I am sure you are aware of my interest in farming, and especially in sheep farming.

Wool has no value, it costs more to shear than you can sell it for. The UK effectively throws most of it away

Australia mass produces sheep for meat. The mass production approach has many down sides

Australian lamb is not nearly as good as UK lamb either.

I have to say I haven't come across a subject you are not a self professed expert in yet. Just off the top of my head that is farming, accountancy, law, human resources, care homes, general medicine, vaccines and that is without trawling earlier posts. That's one hell of a lot of first degrees, masters degrees and private time studying. I'm amazed you find the time to post on here.

 

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Originally posted by Orange1290

OK

"The move, which is still under review at the company's US headquarters, would create 50 full-time jobs at the factory"

Yep, definitely worth throwing away £billions of business from the financial & services industry, freedom of movement to the rest the EU, putting peace in NI at risk and decimating the fishing and farming industries. Really good business model, impressive.


Edited by Orange1290 (01 Jun 2021 3.50pm)

Does this mean you're a salty orange?

 


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