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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 26 Sep 21 6.19pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So it's also covid then.
Not new tax rules?


Nope, after drivers who are retiring, 'brexit' is the main cause as shown in the graph:

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 26 Sep 21 6.21pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Even in the west of Ireland we have drone delivery. I was thinking that in a couple of years lorry driving will not be so necessary. I had forgotten about driverless vehicles, which will improve over the next few years too. There will not be much money in any type of driving in the future. F1 perhaps.
I had seen a programme before saying drones could be huge and well able to transport heavy goods. I don't like the idea of it, but it will happen.

Busses too.

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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 26 Sep 21 6.26pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Honda’s ASIMO project showed how service industry jobs can be automated, albeit currently at too high a price.
How many jobs will go as drone delivery and driverless vehicle technology advances?


What about the many thousands of jobs created in the automation industry? Design, development of both hardware and software, maintenance, testing, new versions/releases etc. It's progress and all for the good as it replaces low skilled, low paid manual jobs with high skilled higher paid jobs. Sure there'll be some casualties on the way but the vast majority will benefit. Otherwise we would all still be in a pre industrial world with all of the horrors that entailed.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 26 Sep 21 6.35pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290


What about the many thousands of jobs created in the automation industry? Design, development of both hardware and software, maintenance, testing, new versions/releases etc. It's progress and all for the good as it replaces low skilled, low paid manual jobs with high skilled higher paid jobs. Sure there'll be some casualties on the way but the vast majority will benefit. Otherwise we would all still be in a pre industrial world with all of the horrors that entailed.

85% of the UK workforce are in service industries.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 26 Sep 21 6.42pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290


Nope, after drivers who are retiring, 'brexit' is the main cause as shown in the graph:

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The BBC mmmmm. Well believable.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 26 Sep 21 7.25pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290


What about the many thousands of jobs created in the automation industry? Design, development of both hardware and software, maintenance, testing, new versions/releases etc. It's progress and all for the good as it replaces low skilled, low paid manual jobs with high skilled higher paid jobs. Sure there'll be some casualties on the way but the vast majority will benefit. Otherwise we would all still be in a pre industrial world with all of the horrors that entailed.

Most software testing is now fully automated. When I started in IT you employed about 300 testers on large projects today you need about 30 to write the scripts after which the system does the rest.

This is the challenge, taxi cabs replaced the horse drawn carriage, secretaries became personal assistants, today AI and robotics will create new jobs but they may not be done by humans.

 


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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 26 Sep 21 7.28pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

The BBC mmmmm. Well believable.

Well, a lot more believable than you, that's for sure.

 


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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 26 Sep 21 7.30pm Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Most software testing is now fully automated. When I started in IT you employed about 300 testers on large projects today you need about 30 to write the scripts after which the system does the rest.

This is the challenge, taxi cabs replaced the horse drawn carriage, secretaries became personal assistants, today AI and robotics will create new jobs but they may not be done by humans.

yes but that automation itself needs people to create that automated system. I've been in certain areas of IT all of my life and there has never, ever been so much work around all over Europe and it's growing every year. Automation frees humans to do other things, such as innovate and innovation improves lives and creates the next level of employment. That's always been the case.

Edited by Orange1290 (26 Sep 2021 7.33pm)

Edited by Orange1290 (26 Sep 2021 7.34pm)

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Sep 21 8.09pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290


Nope, after drivers who are retiring, 'brexit' is the main cause as shown in the graph:

[Link]

Edited by Spiderman (26 Sep 2021 8.46pm)

 

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Originally posted by Orange1290

Correct, only those that no one wants to employ (for various reasons) will volunteer to work in the UK, basically the dregs of the industry as there's plenty of well paid professional commercial driving demand in most European countries right now as the economies of most countries opened up weeks (sometimes months) ago before that of the UK creating a strong and healthy demand for qualified personnel.

Edited by Orange1290 (25 Sep 2021 3.00pm)

Why do you think this? Because the U.K. is the big bad racist infested country of Europe? 6m EU nationals ( and counting) seem to beg to differ with you. No one on these boards knows one way or another what will happen.

Edited by Spiderman (26 Sep 2021 8.34pm)

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 26 Sep 21 8.38pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290

Well, a lot more believable than you, that's for sure.

Did you check the tax thing ?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 26 Sep 21 8.39pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290

yes but that automation itself needs people to create that automated system. I've been in certain areas of IT all of my life and there has never, ever been so much work around all over Europe and it's growing every year. Automation frees humans to do other things, such as innovate and innovation improves lives and creates the next level of employment. That's always been the case.

Edited by Orange1290 (26 Sep 2021 7.33pm)

Badger is correct, automation will significantly reduce employment.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Sep 2021 8.40pm)

 


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