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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jan 21 2.04pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

Yep point well made and I don't disagree with you in that our central DM's being too slow and now not up to the grade.

On that that's where I see a young DM is where we must make at least one acquisition this window - does anyone know where Flynn Downes is in terms of recovering from injury - think he is a real talent and would be great for us - and available at a "snip" if all you read is correct..!!

COYP

Flynn Downes has featured in Ipswich's last 2 games.
He came on as a sub against Swindon and started in the 1-0 win at Burton A at the weekend.

Ipswich have signed Josh Harrop on loan from Preston and in order to adhere to the £2.5 Mill salary cap a player has to leave the club.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 20 Jan 21 3.38pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Flynn Downes has featured in Ipswich's last 2 games.
He came on as a sub against Swindon and started in the 1-0 win at Burton A at the weekend.

Ipswich have signed Josh Harrop on loan from Preston and in order to adhere to the £2.5 Mill salary cap a player has to leave the club.


Interesting. Will we bite I wonder and pay what Ipswich were asking for?

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 20 Jan 21 3.43pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

in my opinion, those who criticize Croydon-Roy are either deluded or Brighton Trolls.


You are clearly busting for a verbal punch-up. Now I'm neither 'Roy out' nor 'Roy in' but I well understand the 'Roy out' arguments (at least from those who put up proper arguments as opposed to silly swipes at Hodgson). AS for the verbal punch-up, I'll leave that to others.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Jan 21 4.39pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

in my opinion, those who criticize Croydon-Roy are either deluded or Brighton Trolls.

Surely you're the troll as you are just insulting everybody that doesn't agree with you

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 20 Jan 21 5.50pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

in my opinion, those who criticize Croydon-Roy are either deluded or Brighton Trolls.

You're entitled to your opinion.

It just always seems to be wrong.

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 20 Jan 21 5.53pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Flynn Downes has featured in Ipswich's last 2 games.
He came on as a sub against Swindon and started in the 1-0 win at Burton A at the weekend.

Ipswich have signed Josh Harrop on loan from Preston and in order to adhere to the £2.5 Mill salary cap a player has to leave the club.

Given he's the same height as Meyer, but about a stone lighter, and hasn't played for a top European league, or in Europe, or internationally, I can't currently see why we would release Meyer early, only to sign Downey.

Not seen him play thought. He might be amazing, but it just doesn't seem logical on the face of it.

 

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View Ketteridge's Profile Ketteridge Flag Brighton 20 Jan 21 7.35pm Send a Private Message to Ketteridge Add Ketteridge as a friend

Ok so I may have been a bit flippant in talking of the sun light future of 35,000 capacity and Jadon Sancho coming through the academy, but the point is still the same, finance has huge impact on the likely finishing position in the league. I had a look at final league position in every year since we were promoted and the size of the club, I appreciate I probably need to get out more. The top six is obvious, the next level I categorised as tradition premier league clubs, Everton, Newcastle, Aston Villa, West Ham and Southampton. Yes, some have been in the championship and lower, but most have spent longer in the premier then they have out of it. Every other club is down as the rest, regardless of rich owner etc. Leicester are odd as they are the one club that have genuinely made the leap from the rest of us to the next level, up to winning the league I have them as the rest from that next season they are traditional premier.
Iíve attached a graph to show these categories and leagus position , the dark grey is big six, mid grey historical premier and light grey the rest of us. It is a simple and stark as this, if you are small club you have about a 1 in 5 chance of finishing in the top ten, Stoke managed it three times Wolves twice, Bournemouth once all have/had rich owners. Burnley have managed it twice, Sheff U, Swansea, West Brom and us have all managed it once. If Villa, Newcastle and West Ham used their cash effectively it would be even worse.
That is the reality, we have been in the premier longer then any other small club we donít have rich owners.We have built a basis of team from players that are over looked they are not going to excite supporters letís leave that to Newcastle. We spends out money on undervalued or over looked players yep Tomkins, Kouyate , Ayew, McCarthy , MacArthur, Clyne etc. Nothing exciting nothing I am going to be able to gloat about the day after transfer deadline dead and boost to the Brighton supporter in the office but 6 months later when their latest hot shot Eredivise signing is looking rubbish then I fell smug.
Yep we need to bring down the age of the squad but as with have signed Eze, Ferguson and Meteta that looks like it has been identified.

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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 20 Jan 21 9.03pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

it's not pie in the sky, if we have a mainly modern stadium with 35k capacity we can aim to be in the Leicester, Wolves, Southampton, Newcastle, West Ham bracket whereas right now this aim is unrealistic, this could take ten years though (and may involve a relegation and promotion along the way).

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 20 Jan 21 9.14pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

it's not pie in the sky, if we have a mainly modern stadium with 35k capacity we can aim to be in the Leicester, Wolves, Southampton, Newcastle, West Ham bracket whereas right now this aim is unrealistic, this could take ten years though (and may involve a relegation and promotion along the way).

Do you think we might have a new manager by then though

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 21 Jan 21 7.12am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Ketteridge

Ok so I may have been a bit flippant in talking of the sun light future of 35,000 capacity and Jadon Sancho coming through the academy, but the point is still the same, finance has huge impact on the likely finishing position in the league. I had a look at final league position in every year since we were promoted and the size of the club, I appreciate I probably need to get out more. The top six is obvious, the next level I categorised as tradition premier league clubs, Everton, Newcastle, Aston Villa, West Ham and Southampton. Yes, some have been in the championship and lower, but most have spent longer in the premier then they have out of it. Every other club is down as the rest, regardless of rich owner etc. Leicester are odd as they are the one club that have genuinely made the leap from the rest of us to the next level, up to winning the league I have them as the rest from that next season they are traditional premier.
Iíve attached a graph to show these categories and leagus position , the dark grey is big six, mid grey historical premier and light grey the rest of us. It is a simple and stark as this, if you are small club you have about a 1 in 5 chance of finishing in the top ten, Stoke managed it three times Wolves twice, Bournemouth once all have/had rich owners. Burnley have managed it twice, Sheff U, Swansea, West Brom and us have all managed it once. If Villa, Newcastle and West Ham used their cash effectively it would be even worse.
That is the reality, we have been in the premier longer then any other small club we donít have rich owners.We have built a basis of team from players that are over looked they are not going to excite supporters letís leave that to Newcastle. We spends out money on undervalued or over looked players yep Tomkins, Kouyate , Ayew, McCarthy , MacArthur, Clyne etc. Nothing exciting nothing I am going to be able to gloat about the day after transfer deadline dead and boost to the Brighton supporter in the office but 6 months later when their latest hot shot Eredivise signing is looking rubbish then I fell smug.
Yep we need to bring down the age of the squad but as with have signed Eze, Ferguson and Meteta that looks like it has been identified.

The bit you have missed is that we do have super rich owners, they just donít spend any of it on our club.

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 21 Jan 21 9.10am Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

The bit you have missed is that we do have super rich owners, they just donít spend any of it on our club.

Firstly, it's their money to decide what they invested in. They've already made the stupid decision to invest in a football club, they aren't going to throw good money after bad.

Secondly. FFP.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 21 Jan 21 9.36am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Firstly, it's their money to decide what they invested in. They've already made the stupid decision to invest in a football club, they aren't going to throw good money after bad.

Secondly. FFP.

It sounds like you approve of their investment strategy. I know I donít. As far as Iím concerned they can cough up or clear off.

As for FFP we seem to be the only club hampered by it. All the other teams just pay the fines for breaching it.

 

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