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View Ketteridge's Profile Ketteridge Flag Brighton 16 Jan 21 2.43pm Send a Private Message to Ketteridge Add Ketteridge as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

It's embarrassing how some of you think a 0-0 draw with the team in 10th places makes Roy a "David vs Goliath" miracle worker.

We've won 2 in 10. The wins came against the teams in 19th and 20th.

Not really the point being made that he is a miracle worker, financial we are not able to compete with the many of the clubs in the league. In terms of finance the big six are way out ahead of us add in Everton, Newcastle, West Ham and more recently Leicester at the next level down. Brighton, Aston Villa and Wolves have owners who have stuck fortunes into the clubs. That leaves really us in league with Fulham , West Brom , Sheffield United, Leeds, Southampton and Burnley as we have been in the premier for a longer time and had more time to build the squad it would be a fair point to say that we should be a the top of that group, if we had Danny Ings rather then Beneteke we might be.
As I was saying with Eaglescoop money doesnít necessarily buy you success but there is going to be a good relationship between a club financial clout and where it ends up. No guarantee you not going to spend your £40-50m on Jolinton and not Aubameyang and no guarantee for £8-16, we are not going to get Sorloth and not Eze but at least with more money you usually at least get a better quality of mistake. Ok Iím stretching the point a bit but if you predicted the league based on turnover you probably wonít be to0 far off how it ends up.
Teams with the big ideas and approaches have come and gone Swansea lovely passing possession football, Watfordís international network of clubs, Bournemouth big money owner, Sheff United over lapping centre back and organized chaos, Brightonís data analytics approach. Wolves super agents are dropping rapidly and Leeds murder ball style might be great it might be disastrous the best that can be said about it at the moment is fantastic when it works but very fragile.
Roy is not a miracle worker he is very competent high level manager who does the tried and tested very well and Iím not sure who else we would get in at our level with our budget who would do better.

 


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View Ketteridge's Profile Ketteridge Flag Brighton 16 Jan 21 2.44pm Send a Private Message to Ketteridge Add Ketteridge as a friend

Originally posted by Ketteridge

Sorry posted twice

Edited by Ketteridge (16 Jan 2021 2.45pm)

 


One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A

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View AuntyAnne70's Profile AuntyAnne70 Flag Tunbridge WElls 16 Jan 21 2.52pm Send a Private Message to AuntyAnne70 Add AuntyAnne70 as a friend

Equally, I think it's embarrassing that some think we should be a top 5 team.

 

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View joe_cpfc's Profile joe_cpfc Flag Basingstoke 16 Jan 21 2.57pm Send a Private Message to joe_cpfc Add joe_cpfc as a friend

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

Equally, I think it's embarrassing that some think we should be a top 5 team.

I don't think I've ever seen or heard anyone say that ever.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 16 Jan 21 2.58pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Ketteridge


The best bit about Everton and West ham spending money is they get rid of the dependable workman like players they have 'upgraded'. We buy them on the cheap and get a good dependable player with Prem experience!


Like Tomkins, Kouyate and McCarthy? If so, yep helped our cause a lot.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 16 Jan 21 3.03pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by Ketteridge

Not really the point being made that he is a miracle worker, financial we are not able to compete with the many of the clubs in the league. In terms of finance the big six are way out ahead of us add in Everton, Newcastle, West Ham and more recently Leicester at the next level down. Brighton, Aston Villa and Wolves have owners who have stuck fortunes into the clubs. That leaves really us in league with Fulham , West Brom , Sheffield United, Leeds, Southampton and Burnley as we have been in the premier for a longer time and had more time to build the squad it would be a fair point to say that we should be a the top of that group, if we had Danny Ings rather then Beneteke we might be.
As I was saying with Eaglescoop money doesnít necessarily buy you success but there is going to be a good relationship between a club financial clout and where it ends up. No guarantee you not going to spend your £40-50m on Jolinton and not Aubameyang and no guarantee for £8-16, we are not going to get Sorloth and not Eze but at least with more money you usually at least get a better quality of mistake. Ok Iím stretching the point a bit but if you predicted the league based on turnover you probably wonít be to0 far off how it ends up.
Teams with the big ideas and approaches have come and gone Swansea lovely passing possession football, Watfordís international network of clubs, Bournemouth big money owner, Sheff United over lapping centre back and organized chaos, Brightonís data analytics approach. Wolves super agents are dropping rapidly and Leeds murder ball style might be great it might be disastrous the best that can be said about it at the moment is fantastic when it works but very fragile.
Roy is not a miracle worker he is very competent high level manager who does the tried and tested very well and Iím not sure who else we would get in at our level with our budget who would do better.


That basically sums it up especially if people focus on 'our level' and 'our budget'.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 16 Jan 21 3.21pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Such a delicate flower arenít you. I certainly donít hate Roy Hodgson, why are you always so dramatic? I hate his style of football and believe he should be doing better - try to keep up.

To me, you are just blind to his inefficiencies and in lots of cases make up narratives to support your own agenda. Iím still unsure if you are just on the windup.

You blame the manager and I blame the squads ability, in order for our club to be sitting where it is in this league requires the entertainment we receive, we will actually play well again against Man.C because they will allow us time to breath on the ball ..it'll be the case of how many miss passes we make or as you feel how many cock ups our manager makes that will determine our fate nothing more nothing less.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 16 Jan 21 3.37pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Ketteridge

Not really the point being made that he is a miracle worker, financial we are not able to compete with the many of the clubs in the league. In terms of finance the big six are way out ahead of us add in Everton, Newcastle, West Ham and more recently Leicester at the next level down. Brighton, Aston Villa and Wolves have owners who have stuck fortunes into the clubs. That leaves really us in league with Fulham , West Brom , Sheffield United, Leeds, Southampton and Burnley as we have been in the premier for a longer time and had more time to build the squad it would be a fair point to say that we should be a the top of that group, if we had Danny Ings rather then Beneteke we might be.
As I was saying with Eaglescoop money doesnít necessarily buy you success but there is going to be a good relationship between a club financial clout and where it ends up. No guarantee you not going to spend your £40-50m on Jolinton and not Aubameyang and no guarantee for £8-16, we are not going to get Sorloth and not Eze but at least with more money you usually at least get a better quality of mistake. Ok Iím stretching the point a bit but if you predicted the league based on turnover you probably wonít be to0 far off how it ends up.
Teams with the big ideas and approaches have come and gone Swansea lovely passing possession football, Watfordís international network of clubs, Bournemouth big money owner, Sheff United over lapping centre back and organized chaos, Brightonís data analytics approach. Wolves super agents are dropping rapidly and Leeds murder ball style might be great it might be disastrous the best that can be said about it at the moment is fantastic when it works but very fragile.
Roy is not a miracle worker he is very competent high level manager who does the tried and tested very well and Iím not sure who else we would get in at our level with our budget who would do better.

All absolutely correct, Everyone outside the top six is pedigree chum.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 16 Jan 21 3.43pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


That basically sums it up especially if people focus on 'our level' and 'our budget'.

To the fans who want our manager to do one ....

focus on 'our level' and 'our budget'.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 16 Jan 21 3.45pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by joe_cpfc

I don't think I've ever seen or heard anyone say that ever.

You know he means ..imply.

 

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View MonsterMunch's Profile MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 16 Jan 21 4.01pm Send a Private Message to MonsterMunch Add MonsterMunch as a friend

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

Equally, I think it's embarrassing that some think we should be a top 5 team.

Top 4

 

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Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

Equally, I think it's embarrassing that some think we should be a top 5 team.

Nothing wrong with ambition - whereas some on here seem quite happy to "tread water" and not progress.

Problem with "treading water" is that ultimately you will run out of energy and sink..!!

COYP

 

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