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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 17 Feb 22 9.43pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Not playing on this but can I just say that Wissie deserves some kudos for top-level trolling. Have to doff my cap because it's master-class stuff. But he can only do so if others take the bait. Just saying....

 


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Originally posted by Matov

Not playing on this but can I just say that Wissie deserves some kudos for top-level trolling. Have to doff my cap because it's master-class stuff. But he can only do so if others take the bait. Just saying....

Wisbelch & Stirling - the Morecambe & Wise of HOL.
I know which one is wise though.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 17 Feb 22 10.06pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Not playing on this but can I just say that Wissie deserves some kudos for top-level trolling. Have to doff my cap because it's master-class stuff. But he can only do so if others take the bait. Just saying....

Other than the lies I think he's quite serious.

I answer when it amuses me.

He's not currently stalking that badly.

 


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Originally posted by georgenorman

Wisbelch & Stirling - the Morecambe & Wise of HOL.
I know which one is wise though.

We know which one has short hairy legs.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Feb 22 10.28pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Utter fantasist.

Ah well, if Trump wins in 2024 it least it'll be a laugh observing you on here.....if we haven't all be blown to bits due to your moron in office.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Feb 2022 9.25pm)

If Trump wins in 2024, which is always possible, though hopefully unlikely as I suspect he is more likely to be in jail, I'll still be here, if I am able to be. I will analyse and criticise just as I do now. Trump won't change. He can't. If he deserves criticism now you can bet he will then.

I don't have anyone "in" office. I give opinions on what I see and think is the truth. No-one gets a free pass.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Feb 22 10.57pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

This first reared its head in another thread, where it is inappropriate. It's so revealing it really does need to be viewed and debated, and not brushed aside as I suspect some here would like it to be. It fits better here.

This concerns the Louis Theroux documentary "Forbidden America", in which he enters the far-right world of the online trolls of "America First", led by Nick Fuentes.

There are many echoes of attitudes and excuses which can be found in some posts on these pages. Knowing some posters draw their inspiration from watching these kinds of things I believe understanding who is producing them to be pretty important.

The documentary can be found on the BBC iPlayer. For those who cannot bring themselves to watch the BBC it can also be found on YouTube here:- [Link]

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This first reared its head in another thread, where it is inappropriate. It's so revealing it really does need to be viewed and debated, and not brushed aside as I suspect some here would like it to be. It fits better here.

This concerns the Louis Theroux documentary "Forbidden America", in which he enters the far-right world of the online trolls of "America First", led by Nick Fuentes.

There are many echoes of attitudes and excuses which can be found in some posts on these pages. Knowing some posters draw their inspiration from watching these kinds of things I believe understanding who is producing them to be pretty important.

The documentary can be found on the BBC iPlayer. For those who cannot bring themselves to watch the BBC it can also be found on YouTube here:- [Link]

I'm watching it on another link that has a dissident right analysis.

Theroux is obviously a social liberal making documentaries for other social liberals. However, while it's obviously going to be edited with an agenda I don't view Theroux as a liar or a dishonest man.....so it's going to be an interesting watch.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Feb 22 7.28am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm watching it on another link that has a dissident right analysis.

Theroux is obviously a social liberal making documentaries for other social liberals. However, while it's obviously going to be edited with an agenda I don't view Theroux as a liar or a dishonest man.....so it's going to be an interesting watch.

Why is anyone else's "analysis" needed? Surely it's best to watch it as made and reach your own conclusions?

This willingness to view things through the lenses of people with strong political positions seems to me to be a significant barrier to objectivity.

I though Theroux allowed people to justify their opinions very fairly, and not have it edited out. It was also clear he was subjected to significant intimidation, but remained calm and in control.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 19 Feb 22 7.51am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Why is anyone else's "analysis" needed? Surely it's best to watch it as made and reach your own conclusions?

This willingness to view things through the lenses of people with strong political positions seems to me to be a significant barrier to objectivity.

I though Theroux allowed people to justify their opinions very fairly, and not have it edited out. It was also clear he was subjected to significant intimidation, but remained calm and in control.

So you are politically objective. Ha ha.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 19 Feb 22 7.54am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Utter fantasist.

Ah well, if Trump wins in 2024 it least it'll be a laugh observing you on here.....if we haven't all be blown to bits due to your moron in office.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Feb 2022 9.25pm)

Complete ideologue so no point to engage really. The problem with telling lies is you have to remember them all and when you don't, rely on some semantic interpretation to try and wriggle off the hook. Johnson is quite practiced at this. Bear in mind WE is getting on , he himself said he needs a daily nap or words to that effect. He clearly believes what he is saying but can't accept that his opinions are not facts.

 


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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 19 Feb 22 8.43am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

I really don't think Biden is cut out for this job. The stakes are high, and he can't cut it.

Same in the UK. A Moron in charge, but where was the opposition at election time ?

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 19 Feb 22 8.58am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

It's double scary when Biden's no 2 is Harris.

 


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