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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 23 Nov 22 12.23pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

You are entitled to your opinion but not to correct the words to what suits your narrative.

Let's see what the processes actually produce for Trump and the Bidens.

I am prepared to accept whatever the courts decide, are you?

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 23 Nov 22 12.51pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course not. Factual reports are not conspiracy theories.

I have no interest at all in watching so-called drag queens and wouldn't want children there either.

This has nothing at all to do with the point though, which is the way the right are deliberately misusing language to weaponise it and attack their opponents.


So a factual report doesn't in any way invalidate your interpretation of what he said and the law changes he's advocated.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Nov 22 3.19pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

You are entitled to your opinion but not to correct the words to what suits your narrative.

Let's see what the processes actually produce for Trump and the Bidens.

I am prepared to accept whatever the courts decide, are you?

I didn't correct your words! They stood above my comment which expressed my opinion on their accuracy.

I have frequently said that due process should proceed for both Trump, Biden and everyone else and that if Joe Biden is shown to have acted corruptly he deserves all he gets. So of course the courts will decide. They have access to all the facts, and not only to political spin.

I have also expressed an opinion that the probability of Trump being indicted seems much higher than Biden. That's an opinion. The first is the law. They are not the same.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (23 Nov 2022 3.26pm)

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Nov 22 3.25pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So a factual report doesn't in any way invalidate your interpretation of what he said and the law changes he's advocated.

Why should it? Accurately reporting someone's words doesn't mean you either agree with them, or you are denied an opinion on their accuracy. It just means that what was said has been correctly reported. Which appears to have been the case.

I don't see any recommended law changes in the tweet. Just a condemnation of the way that LGBT people are being deliberately targeted by using inappropriate language.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 23 Nov 22 3.30pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I'm going to refrain from saying what I think of WE's position.

People can read WE's words and decide for their own conscience what is being done here and what is best for little children.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 23 Nov 22 3.30pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Why should it? Accurately reporting someone's words doesn't mean you either agree with them, or you are denied an opinion on their accuracy. It just means that what was said has been correctly reported. Which appears to have been the case.

I don't see any recommended law changes in the tweet. Just a condemnation of the way that LGBT people are being deliberately targeted by using inappropriate language.

Not in the tweet but in the link provided.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Nov 22 5.20pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm going to refrain from saying what I think of WE's position.

People can read WE's words and decide for their own conscience what is being done here and what is best for little children.

It has nothing whatsoever to do what is best for little children!

Thatís what you would like to divert it to be, so you can avoid dealing with the real issue. Which is how the right are deliberately misusing language to cast aspersions on people they donít like. LBGT people are no more likely to groom children for sex than anyone else. Thatís the point!

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 23 Nov 22 5.39pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It has nothing whatsoever to do what is best for little children!

Thatís what you would like to divert it to be, so you can avoid dealing with the real issue. Which is how the right are deliberately misusing language to cast aspersions on people they donít like. LBGT people are no more likely to groom children for sex than anyone else. Thatís the point!

Cast aspersions at someone who introduced a bill to reduce sex offender status for those having sex with minors?

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 23 Nov 22 5.55pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Cast aspersions at someone who introduced a bill to reduce sex offender status for those having sex with minors?

Also worth noting Teddy:

The word "groomer" is categorically an anti-LGBTQ hate word. It's super homophobic/transphobic. It plays into the slander that LGBTQ people are pedophiles. It's no different than calling someone a fagg*t.

If you call someone groomer, you're inciting violence against LGBTQ people


According to the Oxford English Dictionary:

Grooming - the action by a paedophile of preparing a child for a meeting, especially via an internet chat room, with the intention of committing a sexual offence.

And to the NSPCC:

Grooming is when someone builds a relationship, trust and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them.

So no 'grooming' or a 'groomer' is not 'categorically an anti-LGBTQ hate word'. Neither is it 'no different than calling someone a fagg*t'.

The act of 'grooming', within this context, refers to paedophiles attempting to sexually exploit children.

To try and then conflate that with so called 'hate crimes' and further block the usage of such language so as to protect paedophiles should remain, even above murder, at the very top of human indecency.

If LGBTQ people are being accused of 'grooming' with no supporting evidence, that is a separate matter altogether however that point is not made absolutely clear, even remotely so. You add that in with very much 'pro-paedophilia' legislation associated to the individual and the conclusion whilst not definite, is everything but.

You have to ask yourself what kind of person would then so vehemently look to argue this case and what their motives might be to conjure a smokescreen so as to obfuscate and derail what should be a one-sided stance... or at least you'd hope amongst the decent population.

The problem remains that where genuine and worthy causes may have started, such as the acceptance or even just stopping the abuse of homosexuals in society has now paved the way for hijacking by the likes of the hilariously named 'Wiener' and certain posters.

That is the left these days, which is not the left strictly speaking, it is the assortment of all societies weakest, pariahs and most sinister.

Edited by Nicholas91 (23 Nov 2022 5.57pm)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 23 Nov 22 5.58pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

As usual he tries to twist the argument around to be about something else.

Those who are trying to stop the sexual exploitation of children are attacked by him. Is WE gay? Apparently not.....so I'll leave that as a rather direct refutation of his claim.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Nov 22 6.12pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Cast aspersions at someone who introduced a bill to reduce sex offender status for those having sex with minors?

If anyone wishes to criticise him for that, it's perfectly reasonable, but they should make it quite plain and perhaps start a new thread.

The tweet he wrote, and was quoted here, had absolutely no connection with it and is only about the way the right are misusing language in a deliberate attempt to slur people.

That is what needs to be addressed and not avoided by diverting onto unconnected issues.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 23 Nov 22 6.24pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If anyone wishes to criticise him for that, it's perfectly reasonable, but they should make it quite plain and perhaps start a new thread.

The tweet he wrote, and was quoted here, had absolutely no connection with it and is only about the way the right are misusing language in a deliberate attempt to slur people.

That is what needs to be addressed and not avoided by diverting onto unconnected issues.


Criticism of his tweet is related to his other actions. It's him trying to confuse the issue.

 

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