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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 25 Mar 21 10.13pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Belmont

Ah the old dancing on a pin line you pull out when you seemingly have nothing else to say, yes I did say I would indulge you to prove what you believe is true, I didn't give an opinion on whether the leftish media is anti white and you did make an assumption on what my view was.

So go on explain why you think I am dancing on a pin, and try not to dodge this question like you did the last ones.

Mate, it's too late, maybe tomorrow.

 


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Originally posted by Belmont

Ah the old dancing on a pin line you pull out when you seemingly have nothing else to say, yes I did say I would indulge you to prove what you believe is true, I didn't give an opinion on whether the leftish media is anti white and you did make an assumption on what my view was.

So go on explain why you think I am dancing on a pin, and try not to dodge this question like you did the last ones.

So why haven't the 40 odd muslims protesting in Yorkshire about some insult to a profit get no covid police warnings. Cos dare not white innit.

 

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View Belmont's Profile Belmont Flag 25 Mar 21 10.19pm Send a Private Message to Belmont Add Belmont as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So why haven't the 40 odd muslims protesting in Yorkshire about some insult to a profit get no covid police warnings. Cos dare not white innit.

Err personally I would give them a covid warning, but I think you have mistaken me somehow for someone who works for the police but unfortunately I don't, so I can't really answer why not to your most eloquently put question, init.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Mar 21 10.23pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You asked for evidence, I delivered.

You dancing on a pin is for you.

Anyway there's always some guy on here asking me to do work for them.....rarely happens in reverse though.

No you didn't. You provided no more evidence than your hero Watson ever does. You just found clips to support your assertions. Without context or review that's not evidence. Only detailed peer reviewed research can really be regarded as evidence. You hold opinions. Nothing more.

As I have strong doubts that you actually understand what racism really is perhaps you would give a concise description that we can critique.

I believe racism can, and does, exist in all groups but that it's more harmful to some than others. If the media are concentrating on the most harmful then they are acting responsibly. That is what society demands of them. Or it certainly ought to.

So let's refocus the analysis and look at who is being harmed by racism and ignore the colour of anyone's skin, which is completely irrelevant, whilst the harm isn't.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag The garden of England 26 Mar 21 6.01am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Belmont

Err personally I would give them a covid warning, but I think you have mistaken me somehow for someone who works for the police but unfortunately I don't, so I can't really answer why not to your most eloquently put question, init.

Have a guess then, I mean go on why do you think they haven't. Personally I think you will swerve it.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Mar 21 6.36am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No you didn't. You provided no more evidence than your hero Watson ever does. You just found clips to support your assertions. Without context or review that's not evidence. Only detailed peer reviewed research can really be regarded as evidence. You hold opinions. Nothing more.

As I have strong doubts that you actually understand what racism really is perhaps you would give a concise description that we can critique.

I believe racism can, and does, exist in all groups but that it's more harmful to some than others. If the media are concentrating on the most harmful then they are acting responsibly. That is what society demands of them. Or it certainly ought to.

So let's refocus the analysis and look at who is being harmed by racism and ignore the colour of anyone's skin, which is completely irrelevant, whilst the harm isn't.

Does that last paragraph make sense?

 

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View Belmont's Profile Belmont Flag 26 Mar 21 7.17am Send a Private Message to Belmont Add Belmont as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Have a guess then, I mean go on why do you think they haven't. Personally I think you will swerve it.

Probably for the same reason that the people at the vigil on clapham common didn't or the anti lockdown protesters didn't or the anti vaxer protesters didn't there are too any of them.

I suspect you believe it's because they are muslim maybe maybe not, but explain to me why the police didn't at the vigil on clapham common then because as far as I could see they weren't majority muslim.

 

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View Runningman's Profile Runningman Flag Keston 26 Mar 21 7.57am Send a Private Message to Runningman Add Runningman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Does that last paragraph make sense?

I phoned my mate Prince Harry and he said ‘oh yah, yah it does’

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Mar 21 8.52am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Does that last paragraph make sense?

Of course it does, if you are able to see things beyond a person's skin colour. If you can't, it won't.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 26 Mar 21 10.20am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course it does, if you are able to see things beyond a person's skin colour. If you can't, it won't.

I can thanks.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Mar 21 10.29am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Belmont

Ah the old dancing on a pin line you pull out when you seemingly have nothing else to say, yes I did say I would indulge you to prove what you believe is true, I didn't give an opinion on whether the leftish media is anti white and you did make an assumption on what my view was.

So go on explain why you think I am dancing on a pin, and try not to dodge this question like you did the last ones.

I don't dodge questions, not reasonably ones anyway....You get lots of questions that involve research which is just work on an opinion forum. I've been down the research route multiple times and its pointless. For example, I proven points about crime rates and population rates and all you get is denial....So really you end up putting in the work for nothing. So I've come to the conclusion that unless you know the poster and have time for them it's just a way of wasting your time.

I'm not saying that's you and you saw that I did respond with links. You were partly right to say I had a couple of them saved from previous but two of them were quickly available from just looking. So as you're polite I looked.

My point about you 'dancing on a pin' is a reference to your tendency (from what I've seen on posts) to make a claim about racism and then sit on the fence to any counter reference.

Do I regard this as kosher? Well, when you appeared on this thread it was to agree with Watson's detractors that he had 'cherry picked' evidence. You didn't for example choose to agree with anything he said or make a point about the leftist media and anti white racism. Hence your general priority of stance on this matter appears reasonably straight forward to me.....You are obviously free to object to those observations.

On other threads, if I remember correctly, you have also posted in contention against crime rates and groups and yesterday you seemed to be highlighting racial sensitivity to any criticism regarding blacks....some of which is maybe racial but I don't have a window into men's souls so I mostly stayed out of it.

But what that showed to me was that you're happy to accept a low threshold on what would be thought as 'racism'.....again, these are my asked for observations and you are free to object.

As for my position on 'racism' it's probably closer to Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali's view in the sixties and seventies. I don't believe that multiculturalism or integration works well in unfiltered environments and ultimately ends in ethnic repression and surveillance against the groups the elites don't favour......Repression and surveillance isn't something that is required in homogeneous societies and hence is evidence that it doesn't work naturally.

So you might ask why I focus upon anti white racism as my position is that racism is natural and inevitable. My answer to that is that I attack double standards that pretend to believe in equality and egalitarianism when in reality they are just as biased and one sided as the people they attack.

That's the important thing for me....whether something is honest or not. So I'll attack a media which is essentially far left and pushing critical race theory because it claims it's not racist when in reality it's anti white and fundamentally dishonest.

This movement uses the gains it achieved under 'equality' (which is anti meritocratic) and now pushes for 'equity' (even more anti meritocratic). This is the type of media that Watson attacks and I'm happy to endorse it.

I could write pages on this topic but you asked me for my observations on what I regarded as your position and I gave you some basic general motivations of where I am on the topic of 'racism'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Mar 2021 10.39am)

 


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View Seagles's Profile Seagles Flag Croydon 26 Mar 21 10.35am Send a Private Message to Seagles Add Seagles as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I believe racism can, and does, exist in all groups but that it's more harmful to some than others. If the media are concentrating on the most harmful then they are acting responsibly. That is what society demands of them. Or it certainly ought to.

Hear, hear!

Or should that be read, read?

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