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View kev64's Profile kev64 Flag Cambs 16 Mar 21 6.48pm Send a Private Message to kev64 Add kev64 as a friend

Originally posted by samprior

No me neither and on the whole I actually find it positive that young players want to seek other opportunities in order to increase their chances of actually playing... just gutting when it's one of ours.

Yet were happy to have CW/Batts on the bench who have no future at the club .. so much for forward thinking.. they are just blocking places and bring zero to the table except a drain on wages.

Zero point in building a great academy and your young talent leaving as there is no progress into Royís old boys club.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Mar 21 6.51pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Surely the issue is that English clubs are more concerned in buying from abroad, at inflated prices, rather than nurture our own.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 16 Mar 21 7.12pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by kev64

Zero point in building a great academy and your young talent leaving as there is no progress into Royís old boys club.

Surely the point of spending all this money on upgrading the academy is for the future and not today

 

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View EagleinSF's Profile EagleinSF Flag San Fransisco 16 Mar 21 7.41pm Send a Private Message to EagleinSF Add EagleinSF as a friend

Originally posted by glaziermart

One of our brightest prospects from this brilliant under 18's team we currently have might turn down a professional contract from us to instead go to Germany. Apparently he is worried he may not be able to break into the first team quickly under dinosaur Hodgson. I'm sick and tired of the Roy in brigade. Lets have another couple of years with snooze fest Roy ball, not bringing any youngsters through, but hey ho why not give another contract to that crock Wickham!!! who won't play for another two years!!! I tell you something, if Hodgson gets another year, i'm done with football until he retires.

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 16 Mar 21 8.07pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

I have seen him play, looks a very exciting prospect.

Looks like an exodus of players to West Germany recently, lots of deutschemarks and EU benefits.

Good luck to him.

We have, in Mateta, a player who has done the reverse!

And even better luck to him, too.

West Germany....deutschmarks... I wonder if that pesky Berlin wall will be coming down any time soon?

 


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View lefty27's Profile lefty27 Flag ipswich 16 Mar 21 9.01pm Send a Private Message to lefty27 Add lefty27 as a friend

Very few players make their premier league debut at the age of 18. 23 is the average. Itís not a Palace problem itís a premier league problem.
With so much at stake staying in the richest league in the world is the only goal. Blooding youngsters and gambling in 18 year old is a luxury not afforded most premier league managers.
This is nothing new.

 

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View Ketteridge's Profile Ketteridge Flag Brighton 16 Mar 21 9.17pm Send a Private Message to Ketteridge Add Ketteridge as a friend

Can I just point out before we start on the Hodgson wont play youth thread again how well the 4 players out on loan are doing, the ones dinosaur Hodgson wonít play. Kirby started two matches at Tranmere and seems to have been taken off at half time in both, similar with Pierick who is been kept out of the Kilmarnock first team by the talent of Kyle Lafferty. Sam Woods has been a sub for Plymouth and Scott Banks seems to be doing ok in the Scottish championship . Hopefully ,they are all learning from the experience hopefully they will all come good but letís not kid ourself these are premier league ready players. We have only just got the top grade academy and the young players are simple not there to play but hopefully they will come through over the next few years.
If the lad wants to go it is shame but lots of other youngster have made the same decision ,Yep he will get more first team opppotunities in Germany if he is good enough the Bundesliga is more forgiving on development. Jaydon Sancho has made it a promising story for youngster but it has not worked out well for Mandela Egbo has it.

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 16 Mar 21 10.05pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Ketteridge

Can I just point out before we start on the Hodgson wont play youth thread again how well the 4 players out on loan are doing, the ones dinosaur Hodgson wonít play. Kirby started two matches at Tranmere and seems to have been taken off at half time in both, similar with Pierick who is been kept out of the Kilmarnock first team by the talent of Kyle Lafferty. Sam Woods has been a sub for Plymouth and Scott Banks seems to be doing ok in the Scottish championship . Hopefully ,they are all learning from the experience hopefully they will all come good but letís not kid ourself these are premier league ready players. We have only just got the top grade academy and the young players are simple not there to play but hopefully they will come through over the next few years.
If the lad wants to go it is shame but lots of other youngster have made the same decision ,Yep he will get more first team opppotunities in Germany if he is good enough the Bundesliga is more forgiving on development. Jaydon Sancho has made it a promising story for youngster but it has not worked out well for Mandela Egbo has it.

So what is the point of paying loads of money out to create an academy if it is unlikely any of the players will ever play for us?

 

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View Goal Machine's Profile Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 17 Mar 21 7.27am Send a Private Message to Goal Machine Add Goal Machine as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Why not read the article properly if you want to have a rant as it says quite clearly that "The youngster harbours concerns about what opportunities lie ahead at Palace with competition particularly fierce in the wing and attacking midfield positions."

Why not blame Parish as it was him that bought Eze who is probably the one blocking his path to the first team

With Zaha playing as a striker now and Townsend getting on, there is only Eze which is hardly Ďfierceí competition seeing as there are two wings. No idea who are our attacking midfielders are.

The article is a worry if this is how he feels. Iím sure heís not the only one. Now is the perfect time to try out a youngster or two. If theyíre not ready, it will be a good experience and help their development. It at least shows the others that itís possible to get to the first team and will keep them motivated.

We know from previous seasons that Roy will stick with his usual lineup. Apart from about £2m in prize money which really is small fry, it makes no difference if we finish 9th or 15th. Blooding youngsters is a better long term investment.

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 17 Mar 21 7.35am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by glaziermart

One of our brightest prospects from this brilliant under 18's team we currently have might turn down a professional contract from us to instead go to Germany. Apparently he is worried he may not be able to break into the first team quickly under dinosaur Hodgson. I'm sick and tired of the Roy in brigade. Lets have another couple of years with snooze fest Roy ball, not bringing any youngsters through, but hey ho why not give another contract to that crock Wickham!!! who won't play for another two years!!! I tell you something, if Hodgson gets another year, i'm done with football until he retires.

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just because he has good record at U18 level does not mean he is going to be top PL player and he will only break in to the first team when and if he is ready. He sounds like he is acting like a spoilt brat!

 

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View Ketteridge's Profile Ketteridge Flag Brighton 17 Mar 21 7.38am Send a Private Message to Ketteridge Add Ketteridge as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

So what is the point of paying loads of money out to create an academy if it is unlikely any of the players will ever play for us?

Because it is not going to happen to every youth player, some will make the choice that their development is best served by going somewhere they are more likely to get first team experience, gutting for us but their decision. Going to Germany seems popular at the moment but not every player is going that way. To be honest if you are an up and coming star at Millwall or Charlton academy and you get an offer at the Cat 1 Palace you are likely to take it , but rising starlet seek future in Beckenham isnít going to make a great story except for the South London Press, we will nick players as well and the cat 1 academy makes us more attractive.
The investment in the academy is so that we increase the chances of getting the next AWB or Zaha or so the likes of Emile Smith-Rowe joins Palace academy rather the Arsenal.
As has been said before considering how many good players have come from South London we have been missing out, if we can gain a reputation for playing youngster even better and having the academy makes that more likely but not guaranteed.

 


One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 17 Mar 21 7.48am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

So what is the point of paying loads of money out to create an academy if it is unlikely any of the players will ever play for us?

The gulf between reserves and first team, is enormous there is no guarantee that this lad will make it. We pinched the lad from Chelsea so he has no loyalty to us and will do what he thinks is best for himself.

Some clubs have dropped their academies as they don't think they are worth it. Another poster (maybe different thread) has pointed out that our players currently on loan are not distinguishing themselves (yet) in the lower leagues.

A while ago I posted an article about the youngest players to debut for each PL club. From memory most of them either flopped or had careers at lower league clubs so it's not a Palace problem as such.

Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and accept that you will lose players just like PVA who will walk out on us at the end of the season.

Edited by Badger11 (17 Mar 2021 7.49am)

 


One more point

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