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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 26 Mar 21 3.58pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by Joe Bloggs

Some one mentioned a Linn Sondek which along with a good tonearm and cartridge will produce music at a much higher level than £99.00 player that many people would use.

Vinyl is seriously good but you need to spend to obtain the finest results on top kit.

Very good quality is available on CD even with a low spend but in relative terms CD can be hard and sharper compared to a warmer sound from vinyl.

There's a lot of pretentious nonsense spoken about hi-fi equipment. Sure you need to spend more than £99, but it doesn't need to be in the thousands before you get a good sound.

My few hundred quids worth of vintage kit sounds good to me, although, as I've said elsewhere my hearing is shot after years of standing close to racing engines and the speakers at rock concerts.

Thing is, if it sounds good to you, that's all that matters.

 

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View Joe Bloggs's Profile Joe Bloggs Flag Nr Norwich 26 Mar 21 5.32pm Send a Private Message to Joe Bloggs Add Joe Bloggs as a friend

Irrespective of cost, musical enjoyment is the aim. I suspect that ignorance is more to the fore than pretentious nonsense. Whether you spend £500 or £10000 you will not gain much enjoyment without a decent phono stage.

 

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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

There's a lot of pretentious nonsense spoken about hi-fi equipment. Sure you need to spend more than £99, but it doesn't need to be in the thousands before you get a good sound.

My few hundred quids worth of vintage kit sounds good to me, although, as I've said elsewhere my hearing is shot after years of standing close to racing engines and the speakers at rock concerts.

Thing is, if it sounds good to you, that's all that matters.

There is a lot of truth in that. Obviously money buys you quality but a lot of hi fi buffs start believing the marketing nonsense and once you have spent a fortune on some kit, you are going to convince yourself that it is great and tell everyone else too.

I run a Cyrus digital amp with a couple of old Linn Kelifths from the '90s and they sound pretty good to me. If I want to upgrade, then you are into power amps, tri wiring and all that malarkey

Is it worth the money and bother?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (26 Mar 2021 6.25pm)

 

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View OllieMaidstoneEagle's Profile OllieMaidstoneEagle Flag Maidstone, Kent 26 Mar 21 8.21pm Send a Private Message to OllieMaidstoneEagle Add OllieMaidstoneEagle as a friend

Originally posted by palace chick

Thanks to this thread, today Iíve got some vinyl out to listen to whilst the weather outside is keeping me in - 3 terrific albums in my opinion with one being the best of the PF albums in my opinion :-)

Great choices. Although I have a punk pedigree before that these albums were always on the turntable of my older sister in the room next to mine! Spaceball Richochet,Ballroom of Mars,Shine on You Crazy Diamond,Country Honk and You Can't Always Get What You Want are a few of my top songs! Ollie's Dad,Ash.

 


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View kingdowieonthewall's Profile kingdowieonthewall Flag glorious Goring by sea 26 Mar 21 8.44pm Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

i have a large mp3 / flac collection, but in general I play Tidal through Bang & Olfson speaker or a Naim system in kitchen, not high end but pretty good
(well sounds ok to me)

 


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View pompeyeagle's Profile pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 26 Mar 21 10.20pm Send a Private Message to pompeyeagle Add pompeyeagle as a friend

Originally posted by palace chick

Thanks to this thread, today Iíve got some vinyl out to listen to whilst the weather outside is keeping me in - 3 terrific albums in my opinion with one being the best of the PF albums in my opinion :-)

Really liked Wish You Were Here but Animals has always been my favourite. Not many people agree strangely.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 27 Mar 21 10.20am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by pompeyeagle

Really liked Wish You Were Here but Animals has always been my favourite. Not many people agree strangely.

Both albums are no more than weak efforts to sound like Pink Floyd as far as I'm concerned. As is the over hyped DSOTM.

I saw them live on 3 occasions. The first time was at Eel Pie Island when Syd Barrett was in his glory. The light show was a bloke up a step ladder with an oil lamp and a blow torch to make patterns in tune with their playing. They played a mind blowing version of Interstellar Overdrive that lasted forever. I don't think I've ever been the same since.

That was the real Pink Floyd and their only true album is Piper At The Gates Of Dawn. They were never the same since they kicked Syd out, just made loadsamoney by using the name.

Their drummer, Nick Mason, makes a pretty good fist of replicating Floyd's early days with his group Saucerful Of Secrets. Tour had to be cancelled of course, but if ever you get the chance to see them, go. It's the closest you'll get to the real thing.

 

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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Both albums are no more than weak efforts to sound like Pink Floyd as far as I'm concerned. As is the over hyped DSOTM.

I saw them live on 3 occasions. The first time was at Eel Pie Island when Syd Barrett was in his glory. The light show was a bloke up a step ladder with an oil lamp and a blow torch to make patterns in tune with their playing. They played a mind blowing version of Interstellar Overdrive that lasted forever. I don't think I've ever been the same since.

That was the real Pink Floyd and their only true album is Piper At The Gates Of Dawn. They were never the same since they kicked Syd out, just made loadsamoney by using the name.

Their drummer, Nick Mason, makes a pretty good fist of replicating Floyd's early days with his group Saucerful Of Secrets. Tour had to be cancelled of course, but if ever you get the chance to see them, go. It's the closest you'll get to the real thing.

We just differ in our music likes / enjoyment. Nout wrong with that! :-) Personally Wish you were here is my favourite Pink Floyd album. And having seen them perform The Wall, it still is one of my most favourite concerts. Mainly because it was one of the first, if not the first theatrical concerts performed? I understand you prefer another album which is great. Bands change often and if you take Genesis as an example you have two different lead singers and lots of early genesis fans prefer the Peter Gabriel times. Iím happy with both with Trick of the Tail perhaps my favourite album? I would like to think that Iíve moved with the times and love todayís music as well as the old stuff. Perhaps I just donít think too deeply about it - Canít wait to get to Glastonbury next year to see a mixture of old and new artists :-)

 

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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 27 Mar 21 12.08pm Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

My music buying habit started in the 60s so vinyl was the only option.

One thing I'd say about vinyl, and particularly LPs, is that if you have spent money on purchasing a physical item (as opposed to a download) you might be more prepared to be patient with it if after on first listening it doesn't grab you.

I can recall buying albums where it took several listenings to really fully appreciate it - if however it exists as an intangible entity on a computer disk I think it is easier to just forget about it and bother no further.

And of course it is a lot easier now to skip over tracks you are not so keen on, as opposed to playing vinyl where you'd often just let the record run its course, and again, perhaps find certain tracks growing on you.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 27 Mar 21 1.05pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by palace chick

We just differ in our music likes / enjoyment. Nout wrong with that! :-) Personally Wish you were here is my favourite Pink Floyd album. And having seen them perform The Wall, it still is one of my most favourite concerts. Mainly because it was one of the first, if not the first theatrical concerts performed? I understand you prefer another album which is great. Bands change often and if you take Genesis as an example you have two different lead singers and lots of early genesis fans prefer the Peter Gabriel times. Iím happy with both with Trick of the Tail perhaps my favourite album? I would like to think that Iíve moved with the times and love todayís music as well as the old stuff. Perhaps I just donít think too deeply about it - Canít wait to get to Glastonbury next year to see a mixture of old and new artists :-)

Chick, I'm not saying I don't like Floyd's later stuff, I have DSOTM, WYWH, The Wall and others in my collection. It's just that, being of mature years and recalling them when they first started out in 1965, I hang on to those early memories of hearing them play with a certain fondness. There's no doubt that Syd Barrett's drug fuelled downfall left a huge gap in their creativity.

I get that bands evolve. The Stones are another example, like Genesis, their music went all over the place. Interesting though, that more recently they have returned to their blues roots. The album, Blue And Lonesome, they released in 2016, is excellent bluesy stuff.

So, off to Glastonbury next year eh? Lucky you. I try to watch as much as I can on TV, but regret my festival going days are over. The first I went to was the Windsor Jazz and Blues Festival in 1967 headlined by Cream and Fleetwood Mac. Strangely enough Pink Floyd were due to appear, but pulled out because of Syd Barrett's inability to play. They were replaced by The Nice - not quite the same. We had a great time though.

Anyway, keep listening to whatever turns you on and enjoy your trip to Somerset. So sad it's cancelled again this year. Why don't you start a thread to tell us how it went, it'd be fun to see who else goes.

 

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Originally posted by palace chick

We just differ in our music likes / enjoyment. Nout wrong with that! :-) Personally Wish you were here is my favourite Pink Floyd album. And having seen them perform The Wall, it still is one of my most favourite concerts. Mainly because it was one of the first, if not the first theatrical concerts performed? I understand you prefer another album which is great. Bands change often and if you take Genesis as an example you have two different lead singers and lots of early genesis fans prefer the Peter Gabriel times. Iím happy with both with Trick of the Tail perhaps my favourite album? I would like to think that Iíve moved with the times and love todayís music as well as the old stuff. Perhaps I just donít think too deeply about it - Canít wait to get to Glastonbury next year to see a mixture of old and new artists :-)

'selling England by the pound' for me ,chick !
one of the few albums I can tolerate from start to completion.
Dont think I've listened to 'piper at the gates..' ? will Tidal it tomo, when im scrubbing the curry pots.

 


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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

There is a lot of truth in that. Obviously money buys you quality but a lot of hi fi buffs start believing the marketing nonsense and once you have spent a fortune on some kit, you are going to convince yourself that it is great and tell everyone else too.

I run a Cyrus digital amp with a couple of old Linn Kelifths from the '90s and they sound pretty good to me. If I want to upgrade, then you are into power amps, tri wiring and all that malarkey

Is it worth the money and bother?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (26 Mar 2021 6.25pm)

The best champagne money can buy. I would be unable to detect a difference sufficient to justify the extra spend.

Likewise hi fi. Spend £10k + compatible kit on a turntable and you will likely only appreciate any difference if listening to the Berlin Philharmonic. Not if your taste turns to garage punk or blues.

 

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