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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 01 Apr 21 10.35pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Imagine any builders might have a point to make on the subject.

They certainly might if they find out the sitting CONservative pm and chancellor took a bung to allow said building company in, illegally, and let them off paying any tax to boot for 7 years!

 

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 01 Apr 21 10.37pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Yet another thread that’s descended into petty squabbles.

Honestly it’s getting boring on here.

Happy Easter and happy Passover everyone.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Apr 21 10.43pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I wouldn't decry your 'acceptance of being where we are' since that is a given. What is not, is accepting it quietly. There are areas where continued objection is justified and necessary.
The far right is a perceptual and relative position. It shifts depending on where you think you stand and the politics of the day. When I say politics,I mean the zeitgeist that the media, and those who influence it, decide is going to be pushed upon the population.

I can't speak for anyone else, but my opinions, albeit expressed in a limited fashion on here, are miles away from the traditional description of far right politics.

You on the other hand claim to be some sort of conservative but sound like anything but.

That's a reasonable post most of which I can agree with! Although I see very little point in continuing objection when you have already accepted something. Surely better to try to make things as good as possible and not waste time and energy on things you know cannot succeed.

I have long been a firm believer in fiscal conservatism and not spending more than you earn, other when facing an emergency when hopefully you have built up a reserve in readiness. It's the way I have always managed my personal finances and I have never borrowed money, other than for a mortgage early in my life and for a business in later life, both well secured by property. The Tory Party has left me in recent years rather than me leaving them.

 

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View Lombardinho's Profile Lombardinho Flag London 01 Apr 21 10.45pm Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

I'm keeping out of this thread.
You don't want any more conspiracy theorists stinking out the place.

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 01 Apr 21 10.46pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Yet another thread that’s descended into petty squabbles.

Honestly it’s getting boring on here.

Happy Easter and happy Passover everyone.

Sorry Tom, I thought i had posted on the news and politics section, my mistake!

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 01 Apr 21 11.02pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

They certainly might if they find out the sitting CONservative pm and chancellor took a bung to allow said building company in, illegally, and let them off paying any tax to boot for 7 years!

OK but they’ve still lost a ton of work due to being undercut on prices.

Uber offering a Green option.

[Link]

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 01 Apr 21 11.12pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

OK but they’ve still lost a ton of work due to being undercut on prices.

Uber offering a Green option.

[Link]

Thanks, i"m over Uber to be honest, have a case pending with 10,000 others, no win no fee, and win or lose, will probably use them one day, although i"m not keen on the price surge if it"s busy late at night! My thing wasn"t so much about a business coming over, it was that our pm and cabinet were complicit for financial gain, and never had a problem with the actual drivers, just making a living. The job market for everyone is getting interesting, taxi driving as a career is finished, to cost prohibitive, but the manual building game that i did before is going to get flooded so the prices will drop with the available people having a go!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag Chatham 02 Apr 21 6.17am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Ha, no, companies that come here should abide by the laws of the land, and not be given a "shoe in", by our sitting pm, chancellor and London mayor for hundreds of thousands of shares in said company! They should also abide by our working rights and pay their tax, something Uber weren"t doing, until last weeks court ruling. It shows the importance of a good union, without them those Uber drivers would be on about £3 an hour, pre pandemic! My interest obviously stems from it affecting my job, but the same can happen anywhere, the main point was the fact that the sitting pm, London mayor now pm, and chancellor were all complicit and got well rewarded for illegal activity, its a race to the bottom and nobody cares, until it knocks on their door!

You said you wernt bitter! Alum in your coffee?

 

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View Ouzo Dan's Profile Ouzo Dan 02 Apr 21 7.10am Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

The covid passport doesnt end with just your vaccination details, it begins with them.


 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 02 Apr 21 12.13pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I would say three things.

1 First I have never heard of them.
2 I have no idea who belongs to them
3 Given 1 and 2, I cannot be sure of the validity of the description 'far right' to describe them.


Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (01 Apr 2021 9.44pm)

A couple of the posters you’re quick to back up on here. Might be a good barometer for you to Judge just how ‘moderate’ you are by knowing some of the company those like minded to you keep.

Edited by DanH (02 Apr 2021 12.14pm)

 


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View Eden Eagle's Profile Eden Eagle Flag Kent 02 Apr 21 12.19pm Send a Private Message to Eden Eagle Add Eden Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Explain how a domestic digital passport would a) Ever be ratified by parliament and b) work

Also explain how a social credit score would a) Ever be ratified by parliament and b) work

Please. And in your opinion, of course

Hi SW19

This is my take on it

a/ Johnson has already come out and said he sees the need for the domestic passport, there is considerable evidence that for the past few months they (HMG) have been looking to develop the software to have this in place. It is great news that already a number of MP’s have said they will oppose this and vote against this with the LD’s saying they, as a party, oppose so they will be getting my vote in the local elections.

It is clear that the majority of tory MP’s will follow the government line so will be likely to vote in favour.

b/ How would it work - well the model is already in existence in Israel where you need to show your digital ID to enter, for example, a bar, restaurant, shopping centre. Many will feel that this is ok (WE for example) however what they are blind to, in my opinion, is that once we start down this road it will lead to having to have whatever government mandated medicine (they are already talking about an annual booster) and without this entry will be denied. Like I said many will be, ignorantly, happy with this believing that it provides “freedom” but this is not my belief.

Do you really trust Johnson etc with this level of control over your day to day life? The man is a proven liar, cheat and wholly unsuited to a position of power (I say this as someone who, regrettably voted for him and was previously a lifelong conservative voter)

Once established it is just a small step to a CCP style social credit score where your access to a normal life is based on your score any dissent and your score reduces and suddenly you are unable to travel (for example)

The fact that Tony Blair supports it should be enough to put most sane people off the idea!

I am not anti-vax and I can understand that an international vaccine passport might be needed but I am very strongly against having to “show my papers” to go to Selhurst or to get a pint.

As I said others see no issue with this and that it their right but it is definitely not for me, nor is it a place that I want my children to live in.

Apologies for the long response - it is like a Bluejay note!

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 02 Apr 21 12.25pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

Hi SW19

This is my take on it

a/ Johnson has already come out and said he sees the need for the domestic passport, there is considerable evidence that for the past few months they (HMG) have been looking to develop the software to have this in place. It is great news that already a number of MP’s have said they will oppose this and vote against this with the LD’s saying they, as a party, oppose so they will be getting my vote in the local elections.

It is clear that the majority of tory MP’s will follow the government line so will be likely to vote in favour.

b/ How would it work - well the model is already in existence in Israel where you need to show your digital ID to enter, for example, a bar, restaurant, shopping centre. Many will feel that this is ok (WE for example) however what they are blind to, in my opinion, is that once we start down this road it will lead to having to have whatever government mandated medicine (they are already talking about an annual booster) and without this entry will be denied. Like I said many will be, ignorantly, happy with this believing that it provides “freedom” but this is not my belief.

Do you really trust Johnson etc with this level of control over your day to day life? The man is a proven liar, cheat and wholly unsuited to a position of power (I say this as someone who, regrettably voted for him and was previously a lifelong conservative voter)

Once established it is just a small step to a CCP style social credit score where your access to a normal life is based on your score any dissent and your score reduces and suddenly you are unable to travel (for example)

The fact that Tony Blair supports it should be enough to put most sane people off the idea!

I am not anti-vax and I can understand that an international vaccine passport might be needed but I am very strongly against having to “show my papers” to go to Selhurst or to get a pint.

As I said others see no issue with this and that it their right but it is definitely not for me, nor is it a place that I want my children to live in.

Apologies for the long response - it is like a Bluejay note!

I agree with you but others will blindly follow. It's the back door way to national ID cards, for anyone that remembers that debate.

 


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