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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 22 May 21 10.24pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by grumpymort


Incorrect.

Sausages and burger are not pretend meat at all yes cheap branded ones do have a bunch of fillers in them but they still have meat in and if you really want to you can find good quality a lot of people go for cheap or stick to brands thinking they are quality when they are not.

Burgers are very easy to make anyway with mince.

McD is real beef that is a fact so this whole padded out etc is BS. (quality wise and the way it is processed I wont comment on)

You don't really know much about meat do you fat is part of meat you want fatty cuts. (I bet you are one of those scared of fat or very picky about it)

Mince meat again you can get different types and a variety of quality

The chewy bits this could be a number of things ranging from fat to collagen even cartilage all are fine.

The standards in this country are good go to countries outside EU you will really see how poor it is.

Ok. I was being silly. Your first paragraph is what I was referring to. That sausages and burgers are mostly not 100% meat. I didn't say that you can't get them made with 100% meat.

McD's is perhaps 100% bovine, true, but not 100% meat. Where you go off the rails is to infer that meat and fat are the same. They may be from the same animal, but they are not both meat. Neither are collagen or cartilage meat. Try serving up a plate of fat, collagen and cartilage with boiled potatoes and cabbage to a docker and see how far that gets ya!

As for your daft assumption about me, you don't even know if I eat meat, let alone if I'm picky about fat. I'd take a bet you couldn't tell if we sat down to a meal together either. You don't seem to be able to see anything other than your own ideals.

 


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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Ok. I was being silly. Your first paragraph is what I was referring to. That sausages and burgers are mostly not 100% meat. I didn't say that you can't get them made with 100% meat.

McD's is perhaps 100% bovine, true, but not 100% meat. Where you go off the rails is to infer that meat and fat are the same. They may be from the same animal, but they are not both meat. Neither are collagen or cartilage meat. Try serving up a plate of fat, collagen and cartilage with boiled potatoes and cabbage to a docker and see how far that gets ya!

As for your daft assumption about me, you don't even know if I eat meat, let alone if I'm picky about fat. I'd take a bet you couldn't tell if we sat down to a meal together either. You don't seem to be able to see anything other than your own ideals.


Bovine is an animal you can get meat from not sure why you are claiming it is not.

McDonalds is not bovine anyway it is beef this has been certified.

The listed items are a part of meat if some one wants to separate them and bin them that is up to them they are wasting very good parts (some people are like this with organs as well they wont consume them yet they are nutrition wise the best bits)

Potatoes and cabbage poor mans food should go well with the other scraps.

If we was to go out to eat the restaurant you select would give a big hint.

Never mentioned if you do or don't eat meat.

I go by what science has proven and how I have helped thousands of people restore health if you could provide counter evidence I would be happy to look at it if it did show I was incorrect I would own up to it but I know that is not going to happen.

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort


Bovine is an animal you can get meat from not sure why you are claiming it is not.

McDonalds is not bovine anyway it is beef this has been certified.

The listed items are a part of meat if some one wants to separate them and bin them that is up to them they are wasting very good parts (some people are like this with organs as well they wont consume them yet they are nutrition wise the best bits)

Potatoes and cabbage poor mans food should go well with the other scraps.

If we was to go out to eat the restaurant you select would give a big hint.

Never mentioned if you do or don't eat meat.

I go by what science has proven and how I have helped thousands of people restore health if you could provide counter evidence I would be happy to look at it if it did show I was incorrect I would own up to it but I know that is not going to happen.

Where does beef come from?

f*** me.....!

 


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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Where does beef come from?

f*** me.....!


Perhaps having allegedly studied in the US he was thinking of American Buffalo

Edited by Spiderman (23 May 2021 12.12am)

 

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Originally posted by Spiderman


Perhaps having allegedly studied in the US he was thinking of American Buffalo

Edited by Spiderman (23 May 2021 12.12am)

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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Where does beef come from?

f*** me.....!


I take it you are joking or trying to think you are a smart a**

Bovine covers a large variety which is why it is defined as beef meat which comes from a cow only in UK otherwise you could be getting a mixture of all different things.

So again its 100% beef for a Mcdonalds burger.

Spiderman still waiting for any valid evidence from you or creditable info you have posted nothing so time for you to hush up.

As I stated before typical vegan chatting about things they know nothing about and wont accept when put in their place

Yes I did study in the US as well as other countries which you know already I posted about it with some details regarding the places and roles also name dropped a few people I worked with.

Edited by grumpymort (23 May 2021 12.43am)

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort


I take it you are joking or trying to think you are a smart a**

Bovine covers a large variety which is why it is defined as beef meat which comes from a cow only in UK otherwise you could be getting a mixture of all different things.

So again its 100% beef for a Mcdonalds burger.

Spiderman still waiting for any valid evidence from you or creditable info you have posted nothing so time for you to hush up.

As I stated before typical vegan chatting about things they know nothing about and wont accept when put in their place

Yes I did study in the US as well as other countries which you know already I posted about it with some details regarding the places and roles also name dropped a few people I worked with.

Edited by grumpymort (23 May 2021 12.43am)


I would be interested for you to point out a post on this thread where I have given nutritional advice please. I have never advised anyone on their eating habits, each to their own
Typical vegan, what is that? Do you mean professionals such as this person? [Link] I have also read papers by Monique Tello who works at Harvard Medical school
Shame you didnít follow up Seeagles request on the Eze thread, rather than just deflecting it
Time for me to hush up? Thatís fine but I am sure I am not the only one on here who is hoping you do the same, as you have shown you cannot be civil


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Originally posted by Spiderman


I would be interested for you to point out a post on this thread where I have given nutritional advice please. I have never advised anyone on their eating habits, each to their own
Typical vegan, what is that? Do you mean professionals such as this person? [Link] I have also read papers by Monique Tello who works at Harvard Medical school
Shame you didnít follow up Seeagles request on the Eze thread, rather than just deflecting it
Time for me to hush up? Thatís fine but I am sure I am not the only one on here who is hoping you do the same, as you have shown you cannot be civil


Edited by Spiderman (23 May 2021 10.44am)


Greger is a complete joke the guy doesn't even understand the basics even people on youtube rip him apart rightly so.

I have just taken a look at a few of Monique Tello work regarding nutrition (not all of it) it's laughable which really I shouldn't because this is costing people their health.

Harvard is one of the most corrupt places when it comes to so called studies on nutrition pick 10 random studies which are nutrition based ones look who funds/sat on the panel plus how they came to the conclusions complete pseudoscience.

Edited by grumpymort (23 May 2021 5.49pm)

 


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We should be free to eat what we want. There is enough dietary and health advice available for us to make our own judgements about what goes into our bodies.

But this is what is totally unacceptable. [Link]
How dare anybody DEMAND that McDonald's stop selling the food that many (most?) of us enjoy and that they become totally plant based by 2025.

This holier than thou, righteous, high minded, virtuous and high principled behaviour is what folk find difficult to tolerate.

 


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Originally posted by grumpymort


Greger is a complete joke the guy doesn't even understand the basics even people on youtube rip him apart rightly so.

I have just taken a look at a few of Monique Tello work regarding nutrition (not all of it) it's laughable which really I shouldn't because this is costing people their health.

Harvard is one of the most corrupt places when it comes to so called studies on nutrition pick 10 random studies which are nutrition based ones look who funds/sat on the panel plus how they came to the conclusions complete pseudoscience.

Edited by grumpymort (23 May 2021 5.49pm)

What a surprise, it is you who are the joke. Still waiting for your list of sportspeople! End of discussion


Edited by Spiderman (23 May 2021 6.31pm)

 

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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

We should be free to eat what we want. There is enough dietary and health advice available for us to make our own judgements about what goes into our bodies.

But this is what is totally unacceptable. [Link]
How dare anybody DEMAND that McDonald's stop selling the food that many (most?) of us enjoy and that they become totally plant based by 2025.

This holier than thou, righteous, high minded, virtuous and high principled behaviour is what folk find difficult to tolerate.

This will be the new woke in a few years time. It will be funny to see that today's woke will be met with derision by the next generation.

Current woke "But I went on the marches, voted Remain, supported BLM, tore down the statues and got an electric car."

Future woke "yeah but you eat flesh "

 


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