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View Hootie121082's Profile Hootie121082 Flag Paralimni 21 May 21 8.14am Send a Private Message to Hootie121082 Add Hootie121082 as a friend

What has happened to progress of this guy. Looked to be breaking into the first team before he went on loan to Kilmarnock yet he had only played 3 games in Scotland. Does anyone know if he has been injured or just not shown the promise that we were hoping for. Thought he looked OK when he he has been on the pitch.

 


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View eritheagle's Profile eritheagle Flag Erith 21 May 21 10.31am Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

This does seem to happen a lot with wingers. They are very hit and miss and the position isn't always down to just skill on the ball but work rate, tracking back etc.
This has happened recently with Jason Lokilo and Lumeka and further back with Da Silva, Cadogan, Djilali and Wayne Carlisle.
I think it goes to show just how good Wilf and Vic Moses are.

 

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View Pigglelet's Profile Pigglelet Flag Deepest Darkest Sussex 21 May 21 11.38am Send a Private Message to Pigglelet Add Pigglelet as a friend

The Kilmarnock loan was to the end of the season and there doesnít seem to be any news of his return. He was last named as a sub for the game against Motherwell on 20 March and was brought on 4 minutes from the end when Killie were winning 4-1. Before that he was again named as a sub against Rangers on 13 February, but he didnít play. Apart from this, he had the last 20 minutes against Celtic on 2 February and played the first hour against St. Mirren in the following match, being withdrawn immediately after St. Mirren went 2-0 up. So thatís less than 90 minutes football.

I would guess that he's not exactly what Kilmarnock were looking for: bit of a wasted loan for them and him.

 


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View Uphill's Profile Uphill Flag Bedford 21 May 21 11.40am Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

Might ask the same question about Scott Banks - anyone know?

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 21 May 21 11.54am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

Might ask the same question about Scott Banks - anyone know?

Yeah. Like Mayer, thought he could be "the one". Depressing when they fizzle out to nothing and end up eking out an existence in 3rd tier Scottish football.

 

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View Pigglelet's Profile Pigglelet Flag Deepest Darkest Sussex 21 May 21 12.07pm Send a Private Message to Pigglelet Add Pigglelet as a friend

Originally posted by Uphill

Might ask the same question about Scott Banks - anyone know?

He was on loan with Dunfermline until the end of the season which ended for them on 8 May, so I imagine heís back now. He made substitute appearances in the last two games - the promotion play-offs. He did miss a few matches in April, perhaps with a knock, but before that he was playing quite regularly I believe. The fans seem to have liked him by all accounts.

 


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None of our loaned out players appear to have done well this season at what are pretty mediocre teams and leagues. Those who are demanding Hodgson play the youngsters might want to reflect on this. It's true that some of the U18s are very promising but still a way to go imo.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 21 May 21 12.53pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Every time someone complains that our youngsters aren't given a chance, and that we won't know what they might be capable of until they get a game for our first team, several of us pop up to rehash the same response.

The club has a pretty good idea of how good the youth lads are likely to be. Not a definitive, scientific formula to prove exact potential, but a good idea. They seem to come in three camps:

a. Good enough to play for us now.
b. Good enough to be a pro, but possibly not for Palace.
c. Not good enough to be a pro.

Most youth players are in C, then some in B, with a rare few in A. Those players must stand out like sore thumbs. Moses, Watson, Wilf, Clyne, AWB and Mitchell did not go on loan, they just played, and never came out of the first-team squad.

Most lads in group B go out on loan so that we can find out if they are good enough. Most of the time they prove that they aren't. Innis did, I expect Woods, McGregor, Kirby and Banks are doing so right now. Pierrick seemed to be rated higher than the others, but not to the point that he moved into group A. Sadly, there is no real surprise to it if he doesn't turn out to be good enough.

I'd love to be pleasantly surprised by the lad of course, but I'd expect a player who is good enough for us to stand out when on loan in a lower league, like Reece James did at Wigan. None of ours have.

 

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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Every time someone complains that our youngsters aren't given a chance, and that we won't know what they might be capable of until they get a game for our first team, several of us pop up to rehash the same response.

The club has a pretty good idea of how good the youth lads are likely to be. Not a definitive, scientific formula to prove exact potential, but a good idea. They seem to come in three camps:

a. Good enough to play for us now.
b. Good enough to be a pro, but possibly not for Palace.
c. Not good enough to be a pro.

Most youth players are in C, then some in B, with a rare few in A. Those players must stand out like sore thumbs. Moses, Watson, Wilf, Clyne, AWB and Mitchell did not go on loan, they just played, and never came out of the first-team squad.

Most lads in group B go out on loan so that we can find out if they are good enough. Most of the time they prove that they aren't. Innis did, I expect Woods, McGregor, Kirby and Banks are doing so right now. Pierrick seemed to be rated higher than the others, but not to the point that he moved into group A. Sadly, there is no real surprise to it if he doesn't turn out to be good enough.

I'd love to be pleasantly surprised by the lad of course, but I'd expect a player who is good enough for us to stand out when on loan in a lower league, like Reece James did at Wigan. None of ours have.


That sums up my thinking nicely as well. Thanks.

 

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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Every time someone complains that our youngsters aren't given a chance, and that we won't know what they might be capable of until they get a game for our first team, several of us pop up to rehash the same response.

The club has a pretty good idea of how good the youth lads are likely to be. Not a definitive, scientific formula to prove exact potential, but a good idea. They seem to come in three camps:

a. Good enough to play for us now.
b. Good enough to be a pro, but possibly not for Palace.
c. Not good enough to be a pro.

Most youth players are in C, then some in B, with a rare few in A. Those players must stand out like sore thumbs. Moses, Watson, Wilf, Clyne, AWB and Mitchell did not go on loan, they just played, and never came out of the first-team squad.

Most lads in group B go out on loan so that we can find out if they are good enough. Most of the time they prove that they aren't. Innis did, I expect Woods, McGregor, Kirby and Banks are doing so right now. Pierrick seemed to be rated higher than the others, but not to the point that he moved into group A. Sadly, there is no real surprise to it if he doesn't turn out to be good enough.

I'd love to be pleasantly surprised by the lad of course, but I'd expect a player who is good enough for us to stand out when on loan in a lower league, like Reece James did at Wigan. None of ours have.

Surely, for the lads in Group B, the standard of coaching that they receive whilst out on loan could be a major factor as to how well or badly they develop?

 


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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Every time someone complains that our youngsters aren't given a chance, and that we won't know what they might be capable of until they get a game for our first team, several of us pop up to rehash the same response.

The club has a pretty good idea of how good the youth lads are likely to be. Not a definitive, scientific formula to prove exact potential, but a good idea. They seem to come in three camps:

a. Good enough to play for us now.
b. Good enough to be a pro, but possibly not for Palace.
c. Not good enough to be a pro.

Most youth players are in C, then some in B, with a rare few in A. Those players must stand out like sore thumbs. Moses, Watson, Wilf, Clyne, AWB and Mitchell did not go on loan, they just played, and never came out of the first-team squad.

Most lads in group B go out on loan so that we can find out if they are good enough. Most of the time they prove that they aren't. Innis did, I expect Woods, McGregor, Kirby and Banks are doing so right now. Pierrick seemed to be rated higher than the others, but not to the point that he moved into group A. Sadly, there is no real surprise to it if he doesn't turn out to be good enough.

I'd love to be pleasantly surprised by the lad of course, but I'd expect a player who is good enough for us to stand out when on loan in a lower league, like Reece James did at Wigan. None of ours have.

Not for the first time you make some very good points very clearly.
Itís a fact that the lads loaned out in January, have not pulled up trees . Banks did well apparently, in the Scottish Championship, so promising. Woods , probably wouldnít be asked back to Plymouth.
The lads that went to Tranmere, and Kilmarnock, just disappeared .
The fact is if any of our want to be,s are going to make it ,in the near future they should be hacking it in loans to the Championship, not learning how to cope with menís football and apparently barely doing it in the lower leagues , one even got sent back from the Conference.
A lot has been made of our youth system produce, rightfully so, we have had one or two real good ones .But the proof of the pudding for why there havenít been more surely has to be the fact that very few of those that didnít come through with us have gone on to great things elsewhere .

 

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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Every time someone complains that our youngsters aren't given a chance, and that we won't know what they might be capable of until they get a game for our first team, several of us pop up to rehash the same response.

The club has a pretty good idea of how good the youth lads are likely to be. Not a definitive, scientific formula to prove exact potential, but a good idea. They seem to come in three camps:

a. Good enough to play for us now.
b. Good enough to be a pro, but possibly not for Palace.
c. Not good enough to be a pro.

Most youth players are in C, then some in B, with a rare few in A. Those players must stand out like sore thumbs. Moses, Watson, Wilf, Clyne, AWB and Mitchell did not go on loan, they just played, and never came out of the first-team squad.

Most lads in group B go out on loan so that we can find out if they are good enough. Most of the time they prove that they aren't. Innis did, I expect Woods, McGregor, Kirby and Banks are doing so right now. Pierrick seemed to be rated higher than the others, but not to the point that he moved into group A. Sadly, there is no real surprise to it if he doesn't turn out to be good enough.

I'd love to be pleasantly surprised by the lad of course, but I'd expect a player who is good enough for us to stand out when on loan in a lower league, like Reece James did at Wigan. None of ours have.

Very good points. Just look at the youngsters who play for England at U16. They are supposed to be the elite youngsters, they dont all go on to make a career in the pro game.

 

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