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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 01 Sep 22 8.29am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I Googled 'Skullduggery at the Chelsea flower show', yet could find none. Also tried crime but I thought skullduggery might get more results. I'll have to send in a Freedom of Information request.

Did you try “bounders at the Chelsea Flower Show?”

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 01 Sep 22 9.05am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Did you try “bounders at the Chelsea Flower Show?”

Edited by Spiderman (01 Sep 2022 8.29am)

I feel sorry for wheelbarrows. They’re always getting pushed around.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 01 Sep 22 9.23am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

I suspect 'Cads' are more of a problem than 'Bounders' at the CFS.

But both scum

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 Sep 22 9.46am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

I feel sorry for wheelbarrows. They’re always getting pushed around.

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Not always

 

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View madcap_v2's Profile madcap_v2 Flag San Antonio de Portmany, Ibiza 01 Sep 22 12.19pm Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

As someone said on the radio this morning - if it was an annual football event where people were killed and stabbed and many arrests were made for drugs, sexual assault, violent crime etc then it would be banned.
Now I accept that Euro 2020(21) was a nightmare but the Carnival - or carnage as it is better known - gives rise to an increase in crime year on year so why isn't it banned?

I think a fair comparison would be Leeds/Reading festival. Of circa 100,000 attendees, they had a 16 year old dying from ecstasy, 50 people ejected (a higher rate that the NHC arrest rate) and tents set on fire. Where's the thread on this?

I say this as someone who wants NHC to change drastically

 


La la la your mum

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 01 Sep 22 12.26pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

I think a fair comparison would be Leeds/Reading festival. Of circa 100,000 attendees, they had a 16 year old dying from ecstasy, 50 people ejected (a higher rate that the NHC arrest rate) and tents set on fire. Where's the thread on this?

I say this as someone who wants NHC to change drastically

You can start a thread if you wish.

 

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag The Big Wide World 01 Sep 22 12.37pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

I think a fair comparison would be Leeds/Reading festival. Of circa 100,000 attendees, they had a 16 year old dying from ecstasy, 50 people ejected (a higher rate that the NHC arrest rate) and tents set on fire. Where's the thread on this?

I say this as someone who wants NHC to change drastically

Why compare ejections with arrests ? The 'offence' couldn't be very serious if you're just getting ejected, however if they are breaking the law they should be arrested.

This article disputes your figures anyway.


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 01 Sep 22 1.16pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

I think a fair comparison would be Leeds/Reading festival. Of circa 100,000 attendees, they had a 16 year old dying from ecstasy, 50 people ejected (a higher rate that the NHC arrest rate) and tents set on fire. Where's the thread on this?

I say this as someone who wants NHC to change drastically

My son went to Reading festival 2 years ago. He said it was “policed” by a private security company, who have the power to eject people but not arrest, he did not actually see any police.
Is it possible that the Police were operating under instructions to only arrest in extreme circumstances? Possibly to avoid bigger disturbances? I don’t know, just wondering what posters views are

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Sep 22 1.51pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

My son went to Reading festival 2 years ago. He said it was “policed” by a private security company, who have the power to eject people but not arrest, he did not actually see any police.
Is it possible that the Police were operating under instructions to only arrest in extreme circumstances? Possibly to avoid bigger disturbances? I don’t know, just wondering what posters views are

I know a football hooligan he pointed out that the police only arrest a fraction of people in disturbances e.g. 10 arrests may mean 50 people involved. So numbers can be deceptive.

 


One more point

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View madcap_v2's Profile madcap_v2 Flag San Antonio de Portmany, Ibiza 01 Sep 22 2.24pm Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

You can start a thread if you wish.

I don't start threads, babe x

 


La la la your mum

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 01 Sep 22 3.58pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I know a football hooligan .........

surely he is not an Eagle. We don't have any hooligans since the 1970s

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Sep 22 4.01pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

surely he is not an Eagle. We don't have any hooligans since the 1970s

Millwall actually.

But he had a point we have all seen wide spread riots at various events over the years and when you look at how many the police arrest you realise it's a random sample and not reflective of the actual number of troublemakers.

 


One more point

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