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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Online Flag London 27 Jun 21 8.32am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

Didn’t even bother reading. Sick of the moaning and abuse hurled at club heroes who are doing their best.

Very wokey. Sometimes in pro sport doing your best is not enough. Comments on here have not been attacking the club and it’s personnel. They have been about our dire situation and what can be done to change it. With the personnel we have today and no changes we are looking at relegation almost certainly. Is that what you want? Toughen up face the reality, accept that some of us care about winning and staying up. I have just paid for my season ticket and I like and I want premier football to stay at Selhurst. If we can’t reasonably comment on the problems the club has then we all become wokes. And most posters here are definitely not that. But we are all hard Palace men. You need to toughen up pal and face the facts or your heroes will all be gone. Fact.

 

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View sprites's Profile sprites Flag Auckland 27 Jun 21 8.52am Send a Private Message to sprites Add sprites as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Very wokey. Sometimes in pro sport doing your best is not enough. Comments on here have not been attacking the club and it’s personnel. They have been about our dire situation and what can be done to change it. With the personnel we have today and no changes we are looking at relegation almost certainly. Is that what you want? Toughen up face the reality, accept that some of us care about winning and staying up. I have just paid for my season ticket and I like and I want premier football to stay at Selhurst. If we can’t reasonably comment on the problems the club has then we all become wokes. And most posters here are definitely not that. But we are all hard Palace men. You need to toughen up pal and face the facts or your heroes will all be gone. Fact.

First up, I don’t need to toughen up one bit. Careful there.

Secondly, I’m as far away from woke as it gets. All I’m saying is no one knows the bloody story and yet we’ve all hung Parish out to dry. It’s fine margins. If Favre signs, Parish is a hero who’s pulled off the coup of the season signing a manager of that ilk. Instead, an 11th hour change of heart (for personal reasons it sounds) and suddenly he’s incompetent and guilty or mismanagement etc.

It’s fickle fans having no idea how the real world works. I for one am glad Steve’s in charge and I trust him to make the right decision for the club - like he’s always done.

 

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View lefty27's Profile lefty27 Flag ipswich 27 Jun 21 8.59am Send a Private Message to lefty27 Add lefty27 as a friend

Amazing how many of the anti Parish brigade joined the site in 2013.
I’m happy with the way the club is perfect and those bleating about premier league football need to realise that it’s not an if it’s a when as far as a club our size and relegation goes.
Oh and these mystery billionaires that are itching to by palace but won’t because SP is clinging to power really don’t exist.

 

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View lefty27's Profile lefty27 Flag ipswich 27 Jun 21 9.03am Send a Private Message to lefty27 Add lefty27 as a friend

Originally posted by lefty27

Amazing how many of the anti Parish brigade joined the site in 2013.
I’m happy with the way the club is being run, those bleating about premier league football need to realise that it’s not an if it’s a when as far as a club our size and relegation goes.
Oh and these mystery billionaires that are itching to by palace but won’t because SP is clinging to power really don’t exist.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 27 Jun 21 9.04am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by sprites

First up, I don’t need to toughen up one bit. Careful there.

Secondly, I’m as far away from woke as it gets. All I’m saying is no one knows the bloody story and yet we’ve all hung Parish out to dry. It’s fine margins. If Favre signs, Parish is a hero who’s pulled off the coup of the season signing a manager of that ilk. Instead, an 11th hour change of heart (for personal reasons it sounds) and suddenly he’s incompetent and guilty or mismanagement etc.

It’s fickle fans having no idea how the real world works. I for one am glad Steve’s in charge and I trust him to make the right decision for the club - like he’s always done.

I completely agree. Far too many on here are mistaking Parish aiming high for negligence.

 

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View sydtheeagle's Profile sydtheeagle Flag England 27 Jun 21 9.34am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

I cannot understand why anyone thinks its a bad thing that the contract situation is bad, its 11 players,
Sakho, Batshuayi ,Clyne, Dann, Wickham, PVA, McCarthy, Ward, Hennessey, Townsend And Cahill,
Only the last too might be worth keeping
The other players are finished anyway, The saving on wages is 700k a week, 37million a year,
There is some very good young players knocking on the door, Partially in my view Rich-Baghuelou, Rak-Sakyi and Hannam,
3 loan stops are available, CD, RB, AM,
All is not Awful, if it is Cooper (who wouldn't be my Choice) he must be backed 100% by Players, Staff, and fans until he has been given a fair chance

That's a dangerously intelligent and well-reasoned post. Totally agree.

 


Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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View sickboy's Profile sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 27 Jun 21 9.38am Send a Private Message to sickboy Add sickboy as a friend

Originally posted by lefty27

Amazing how many of the anti Parish brigade joined the site in 2013.
I’m happy with the way the club is perfect and those bleating about premier league football need to realise that it’s not an if it’s a when as far as a club our size and relegation goes.
Oh and these mystery billionaires that are itching to by palace but won’t because SP is clinging to power really don’t exist.

What's the date someone joined got to do with anything.
My dad's been supporting Palace for 75 years, and he isn't on this site at all.
When I see him later I will tell him that according to you he's not allowed an opinion on the club or St Steve.

 

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View Dubai Eagle's Profile Dubai Eagle Online Flag 27 Jun 21 9.51am Send a Private Message to Dubai Eagle Add Dubai Eagle as a friend

On the Favre situation, I think most people have at times talked to other employers about open positions where its nice to be linked with opportunities, its nice to feel that your stock is suitably well thought of to be wanted, maybe you go along to the interviews hoping that something is going to click to make you take the offer seriously, both sides talk, eventually at a certain point in time it gets serious, at that point you have to sign, or make clear your reservations to see if you can get closer to each other or if the gap between the employers & employees thinking is too great then you walk away.

My guess (and its only a guess) is that with our situation, (players /contracts / relegation prospects) the amount of money available to achieve what was required isn't realistic & by the time that became apparent we would be fast approaching Christmas & the board would then have to make a decision to further back the manager in the Jan transfer window or bring in another fireman Sam style saviour, either way it makes for a very bumpy ride.

Originally posted by Spiderman

I think Palace’s version relating to Nuno is possibly near the truth, as similar happened at Everton. However, I cannot believe the Favre reasoning. If he wanted a longer break, he would not have even spoken to the Club. There was something that arose, late on, that had not been divulged before, actual transfer funds? Transfer targets? Dougie’s role? I doubt we will ever know
In a bizarre way I hoped he pitched up at another club, Everton or Spurs. At least then it could not be attributed to a problem at Palace, unfortunately there obviously is a problem

Edited by Spiderman (27 Jun 2021 7.29am)

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 27 Jun 21 9.52am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Painter


Do you think his current wages of £400k a week, would be a stumbling block?

Yes it's a huge stumbling block but I'm guessing that the thinking (by the media anyway) is that we can come to a more agreeable compromise as I doubt whether any club would pay him that nowadays

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 27 Jun 21 10.11am Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

On the Favre situation, I think most people have at times talked to other employers about open positions where its nice to be linked with opportunities, its nice to feel that your stock is suitably well thought of to be wanted, maybe you go along to the interviews hoping that something is going to click to make you take the offer seriously, both sides talk, eventually at a certain point in time it gets serious, at that point you have to sign, or make clear your reservations to see if you can get closer to each other or if the gap between the employers & employees thinking is too great then you walk away.

My guess (and its only a guess) is that with our situation, (players /contracts / relegation prospects) the amount of money available to achieve what was required isn't realistic & by the time that became apparent we would be fast approaching Christmas & the board would then have to make a decision to further back the manager in the Jan transfer window or bring in another fireman Sam style saviour, either way it makes for a very bumpy ride.

This is very well reasoned and likely to be close to the truth IMO. Only I would add that the club should have had a better plan of the direction in which they were going once they / Roy decided it was time to part company.

I also think people have over estimated how attractive the job is likely to be to an established manager with a reputation to lose.

 

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View Swindy's Profile Swindy Flag Bromley 27 Jun 21 10.12am Send a Private Message to Swindy Add Swindy as a friend

'It's fickle fans having no idea how the real world works' !
Check the first few lines of my original post !
Also, it's all well and good saying from these 11 players we don't need so and so but it will take time to get replacements - something of which there is less and less of and this is exacerbated by having no manager in place and the fact that it is a tournament summer which means normally that business is done later !!

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 27 Jun 21 10.28am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Batshuayi was a loanee not a contracted player so he's doesn't really count.

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

That's a dangerously intelligent and well-reasoned post. Totally agree.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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