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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Aug 21 1.24pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Poland has agreed to drop their controversial oversight of judges so peace is restored there, and so is access to all that lovely recovery dosh.

The problem with HU exit is that the population are actually quite on board with their membership, and particularly the coming generation.

Orban is as throwback to those strutting little dictators like Franco I think the EU should chuck him, they can always try again if they want to be as democracy.

 

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If they leave the EU will need new scapegoats. I'll nominate Italy.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Aug 21 3.11pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

You completely missed the point I was making:

Brexit came from the bottom the UK government opposed it whereas it looks like Huxit is being proposed by the Orban government.

As for the rest not worth commenting on.

Edited by Badger11 (25 Aug 2021 10.09am)

I understood your point, but to suggest Brexit was forced by the voters is untrue. It happened only because the Tory Party agreed to hold a referendum. Which they did in their own interests and not because they believe in referendums. The whole process was hijacked by a well-organised, noisy minority, who then exploited the weaknesses inherent in referendums as a method to determine matters of such huge importance.

The voters were the willing sheep herded into the right booths by misinformation and jam tomorrow promises.

Orban knows he is in trouble with the EU, so it's hardly surprising he is encouraging a separation. Totally different scenario.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 25 Aug 21 3.23pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Poland has agreed to drop their controversial oversight of judges so peace is restored there, and so is access to all that lovely recovery dosh.

The problem with HU exit is that the population are actually quite on board with their membership, and particularly the coming generation.

Orban is as throwback to those strutting little dictators like Franco I think the EU should chuck him, they can always try again if they want to be as democracy.

More wishful thinking from you Steely.

You're making the same mistake Maple used to make on this topic. As people grow older their opinions alter. I remember being 17 and supporting Neil Kinnock and Labour. People grow....old socialists are less common, it's always tended to be a younger movement filled with the inexperienced...or those that continue voting along old family lines without taking much notice.

I don't see why this dynamic will suddenly change here.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Aug 2021 3.24pm)

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 Aug 21 3.23pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I understood your point, but to suggest Brexit was forced by the voters is untrue. It happened only because the Tory Party agreed to hold a referendum. Which they did in their own interests and not because they believe in referendums. The whole process was hijacked by a well-organised, noisy minority, who then exploited the weaknesses inherent in referendums as a method to determine matters of such huge importance.

The voters were the willing sheep herded into the right booths by misinformation and jam tomorrow promises.

Orban knows he is in trouble with the EU, so it's hardly surprising he is encouraging a separation. Totally different scenario.

According to you, other opinions are available such as the millions who voted for UKIP over decades and then for the Brexit party. That didn't come from the top, only when it looked a possibility did some of the elite jump on board no doubt for their own reasons.

I don't want to re-run that debate I was merely pointing out that this time It is the Hungarian government who appears to be pushing the voters in that direction not the voters pushing.

 


One more point

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Aug 21 3.33pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

HU exit is no sweat.

A strange country veering from communism to democracy to dictatorship.

What is it to be exactly?

A hungarian is someone who gets into a revolving door behind you and exits in front of you. &#128522;

Under communism at least they had a great football team, the 'magical magyars'.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 25 Aug 21 4.03pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

HU exit is no sweat.

A strange country veering from communism to democracy to dictatorship.

What is it to be exactly?

A hungarian is someone who gets into a revolving door behind you and exits in front of you. &#128522;

Under communism at least they had a great football team, the 'magical magyars'.

Democracy is mostly a myth as the choices are controlled as are the policies directed by elite funding and opinions directed and shaped by media....again controlled by unelected elites.

Communism and fascism are similar and come in many variations but limit which elites get to direct.

Democracy is better, but unless it deals with forces looking to control it it's just a convenient lie.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Aug 2021 4.05pm)

 


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 25 Aug 21 4.39pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

HU exit is no sweat.

A strange country veering from communism to democracy to dictatorship.

What is it to be exactly?

A hungarian is someone who gets into a revolving door behind you and exits in front of you. &#128522;

Under communism at least they had a great football team, the 'magical magyars'.

That was when they drank "Bulls Blood" at the training ground . . .

 


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View chris123's Profile chris123 Online Flag hove actually 25 Aug 21 5.07pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Budapest is beautiful and cheap!!

 

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Originally posted by chris123

Budapest is beautiful and cheap!!

Yep, worked there for a while many years ago, nothing like London in any aspect at all!

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 25 Aug 21 5.47pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290


Correct but don't expect any of the brainwashed or those who fight any form of progressive change to ever believe that. They are best ignored and left to isolate themselves even further.

You go crying about names then lay everyone with a different opinion as brainwashed. Double standards from Mr lefty. BTW wissie hasn't replied to many of your posts to him. Maybe he isn't as radical as you assume.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 25 Aug 21 5.48pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290

Yep, worked there for a while many years ago, nothing like London in any aspect at all!

Why? NoT Much danger of being mugged or stabbed!
Must be horrible.

 

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