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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 01 Sep 21 9.09pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Do you test yourself score going to football? If not, how confident are you that you’re not a carrier in the first 5 days of incubation with only some vaccine protection, that doesn’t last anyway? This is the stupidity of vaccine and mask obsessed people. Best off to just get a proper FFP3 mask rather than shove your responsibility and risk onto others. It’s the only thing you can really rely on.

i test myself 4/5 times a week to try my hardest to make sure I am not going to make my elderly parents/family/friends ill when i see them…i dont see that as that much hardship in the grand scheme of things!

i wear a mask when i go shopping.

i dont enjoy doing either of these things, i didnt enjoy getting a vaccine however i would rather take these precautionary steps to keep myself, my friends & my family safe.

Edited by braunstoneagle (01 Sep 2021 9.11pm)

 


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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 01 Sep 21 9.14pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by Apollofuzz

Not sure we're you figure came from but according to the gov web site over 700 people under 50 have died since jan 2/3 we're unvaccinated.

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But it is still your choice

[Link] this was upto August 15 of this year

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 01 Sep 21 9.18pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Apollofuzz

Not sure we're you figure came from but according to the gov web site over 700 people under 50 have died since jan 2/3 we're unvaccinated.

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But it is still your choice

Interesting link. Why have they decided "Deaths within 60 days of a positive COVID-19 test or where COVID-19 is mentioned on the death certificate", when previously it was 28 days?

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 01 Sep 21 9.58pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

There's been 113 deaths since Jan the 1st for people under 50 from covid, why am I going to waste my time getting a vaccine that has 0.00019% chance of killing me ?

I appreciate the issue is perhaps more nuanced than the media sometimes conveys, but isn't the answer to your question something like:

To do your bit. To stop the numbers getting higher than they otherwise would. To not pass the virus on to someone else, including those who are over 50, vulnerable or just unlucky. Because you (we) have responsibilities as well as rights?

I'm happy to hear why that's wrong of course, but generally I'm with braunstoneagle on this insofar as that, certainly at this stage of the covid era, those who have declined the jab shouldn't be afforded the same privileges as those who have had it.

I'm not sure I'd describe ineligibility for football tickets as a punishment for anti-vaxers though, it's perhaps more a reward for the vaccinated.

I do also appreciate the significance of testing oneself before attending a match regardless of vaccination status.

 

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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 01 Sep 21 10.15pm Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

There's been 113 deaths since Jan the 1st for people under 50 from covid, why am I going to waste my time getting a vaccine that has 0.00019% chance of killing me ?

Because you might spread it, but it would seem that you are unable to see beyond the tip of your own nose.

 

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View rikz's Profile rikz Flag Croydon 01 Sep 21 10.26pm Send a Private Message to rikz Add rikz as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I appreciate the issue is perhaps more nuanced than the media sometimes conveys, but isn't the answer to your question something like:

To do your bit. To stop the numbers getting higher than they otherwise would. To not pass the virus on to someone else, including those who are over 50, vulnerable or just unlucky. Because you (we) have responsibilities as well as rights?

I'm happy to hear why that's wrong of course, but generally I'm with braunstoneagle on this insofar as that, certainly at this stage of the covid era, those who have declined the jab shouldn't be afforded the same privileges as those who have had it.

I'm not sure I'd describe ineligibility for football tickets as a punishment for anti-vaxers though, it's perhaps more a reward for the vaccinated.

I do also appreciate the significance of testing oneself before attending a match regardless of vaccination status.

Tho it's not a vaccine is it, scientists have already said it'll be impossible to achieve herd immunity due to the speed it mutates, it'll be a seasonal jab like the flu, it's not going anywhere, it's here to stay, if you're old or high risk and you don't get the jab then that's stupidity. I have a polio vaccine, I couldn't care less who else has it as I'm safe. Its been sensationalised by the press and has been politicised by governments. If it was as deadly as people make out you wouldn't have to bribe people to get it.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 Sep 21 10.32pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

i test myself 4/5 times a week to try my hardest to make sure I am not going to make my elderly parents/family/friends ill when i see them…i dont see that as that much hardship in the grand scheme of things!

i wear a mask when i go shopping.

i dont enjoy doing either of these things, i didnt enjoy getting a vaccine however i would rather take these precautionary steps to keep myself, my friends & my family safe.

Edited by braunstoneagle (01 Sep 2021 9.11pm)

Are you wearing an FFP3 mask? Trumps all that you’re doing.

 


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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 01 Sep 21 10.39pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

Tho it's not a vaccine is it, scientists have already said it'll be impossible to achieve herd immunity due to the speed it mutates, it'll be a seasonal jab like the flu, it's not going anywhere, it's here to stay, if you're old or high risk and you don't get the jab then that's stupidity. I have a polio vaccine, I couldn't care less who else has it as I'm safe. Its been sensationalised by the press and has been politicised by governments. If it was as deadly as people make out you wouldn't have to bribe people to get it.

That's deeply unconvincing to be honest. It's a partial vaccine that you take to protect you and, crucially (though you seem to miss the point) others.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 01 Sep 21 10.46pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

There's been 113 deaths since Jan the 1st for people under 50 from covid, why am I going to waste my time getting a vaccine that has 0.00019% chance of killing me ?

lets all hope you're not unlucky then.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 01 Sep 21 10.48pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

That's deeply unconvincing to be honest. It's a partial vaccine that you take to protect you and, crucially (though you seem to miss the point) others.

I don't think he gives a stuff about anyone else, just himself. People can make their own choice.

 

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View kev64's Profile kev64 Flag Cambs 01 Sep 21 11.07pm Send a Private Message to kev64 Add kev64 as a friend

Originally posted by rikz

There's been 113 deaths since Jan the 1st for people under 50 from covid, why am I going to waste my time getting a vaccine that has 0.00019% chance of killing me ?

Because when you catch it you will pass it on ( possibly to someone it may harm) and the cycle continues how the f do you think they eradicate diseases using vaccines ffs ..

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 Sep 21 11.11pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Everyone is still ‘at risk’ or not ‘staying safe’ even with these vaccines. If you want to ‘stay safe’ and keep your loved ones safe then unless you wear an FFP3 mask I’m afraid you won’t be. But what you might do is put blame on others when you could get an FFP3 mask and know none of the other stuff matters to you and your loved ones. But let’s use it as a 21st century way to claim moral superiority while the opportunity is there rather than do something that is going to be certain of a result.

 


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