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Not a stupid idea and to be honest nothing to do with the current staff shortage issue, this is a decades old problem.

What you do with prisoners when they are released to prevent re-offending? Timpsons has a great record of employing them sadly many others don't.

You have to draw the line with some offenders but many others could be rehabilitated through work.

 


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This country needs a housing fetish.....but the nimbies don't want it in their backyard.

But if they don't like it they should stop voting for immigration parties because expansion becomes inevitable.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Sep 21 2.49pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Why do you insist on including hypotheticals in every post? Can you not just hold a discussion on what's in front of you rather than inventing positions?

"I can guarantee..."
"we'll get the usual people screaming.."
"I can bet the same objectors.."

I've made no comments on Starmer's £15 minimum wage, so you have no idea my view on it - just because you subscribe to group-think, it doesn't mean everyone else does.

Just address the points being made and you might not have to fall back on moronic phrases like 'remoaner lefties' to try and support your argument.

Maybe I got carried away, but that was a good way of avoiding the examples I gave of how the labour market would shuffle around to fill vacancies. Would take time of course, but you seem certain that people wonít do vacant roles. A million off furlough today up to £26,000.

However, I do recall some very recently on here say they want higher wages but complain when they could be coming that prices will rise. DanH definitely got twisted up on this yesterday and Iíve heard several on media programmes do it as well. Funny enough they start off with Brexit this and that and thereís no solution.

 


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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I agree on incentivising working, I just don't think you can do it to the extent others do.

I don't think you can make the dole finite - as you allude to, the age-old problem with a welfare system is that it is always going to be exploitable to some extent, and you will always have people happy to exploit it. The question is whether you cut off those in genuine need of help to stop the exploiters.. like you, I'd argue you don't.

So you tighten all the loop holes you can, you incentivise people to work as much as you can, I just don't think it's sufficient to plug the level of gaps we're talking about.

In terms of money lost the wealthy far out abuse the system than the poor......We have a thousand government quangos for example....tax avoidance and so on.

But the system likes to focus upon the weaker prey.

 


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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Maybe I got carried away, but that was a good way of avoiding the examples I gave of how the labour market would shuffle around to fill vacancies. Would take time of course, but you seem certain that people wonít do vacant roles. A million off furlough today up to £26,000.

However, I do recall some very recently on here say they want higher wages but complain when they could be coming that prices will rise. DanH definitely got twisted up on this yesterday and Iíve heard several on media programmes do it as well. Funny enough they start off with Brexit this and that and thereís no solution.

Big business would love 15 pounds an hour....it would kill off a lot of their smaller competition.

I'm smelling corporate Labour again.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This country needs a housing fetish.....but the nimbies don't want it in their backyard.

But if they don't like it they should stop voting for immigration parties because expansion becomes inevitable.

Iíve often wondered what the voting mix is of the nimbies being anti new housing. Probably Tory in the Home Counties. Lib Dem in Cornwall and the safe haven of Truro. Would it match the voting percentages?

Quite funny that quite a few Lib Demís opposed one of Ron Noadesí gold clubs being used for housing recently. Chaldon Road in caterham. Thereís a nice housing estate up where warlingham park psychiatric hospital used to be and thereís so much unused grounds up there.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (30 Sep 2021 2.58pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Big business would love 15 pounds an hour....it would kill off a lot of their smaller competition.

I'm smelling corporate Labour again.

Never thought of that. £15 is fecking mental. Over £10 probably. £15 is just mad.

 


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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Iíve often wondered what the voting mix is of the nimbies being anti new housing. Probably Tory in the Home Counties. Lib Dem in Cornwall and the safe haven of Truro. Would it match the voting percentages?

Quite funny that quite a few Lib Demís opposed one of Ron Noadesí gold clubs being used for housing recently. Chaldon Road in caterham. Thereís a nice housing estate up where warlingham park psychiatric hospital used to be and thereís so much unused grounds up there.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (30 Sep 2021 2.58pm)

Perhaps they can't put two and two together or they are just that dodgy person who is full of principles for others but won't live them personally.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Perhaps they can't put two and two together or they are just that dodgy person who is full of principles for others but won't live them personally.

Cornwall for the Cornish as long as they get UK tax receipts for the Cornish.

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

Cornwall for the Cornish as long as they get UK tax receipts for the Cornish.

I couldn't possibly comment.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Big business would love 15 pounds an hour....it would kill off a lot of their smaller competition.

I'm smelling corporate Labour again.

Youíre actually correct again

 

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Originally posted by DanH

Youíre actually correct again

Ffs what is going on here

Edited by Spiderman (30 Sep 2021 4.29pm)

 

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