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View Wilbraham413's Profile Wilbraham413 Flag 04 Oct 21 12.02am Send a Private Message to Wilbraham413 Add Wilbraham413 as a friend

Can anyone educate me as to how our new academy works in terms of which young players do we have the advantage of signing? From what I understand, we should have an advantage signing young players in the South London area. Is this true? And now that we have a top level academy, it makes it more likely that we can retain local talent?

I'm hoping that our new academy gives us a pipeline of good young players that other mid-tier clubs won't have. Like I would imagine South London would have a constant stream of good young talent. That makes me think that even if we have a terrible year, and get relegated, we should be able to rebound quickly.

 


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The more established or successful a team is probably equates to less chance for young players to break through though injuries can throw an opportunity ; if we did get relegated then arguably the academy becomes more important, if the club is run sensibly

Chelsea seem to have the run of the best talent in South London so it’s good to offer competition. Being a level 1 - should make it easier to keep academy players

 

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Originally posted by Wilbraham413

Can anyone educate me as to how our new academy works in terms of which young players do we have the advantage of signing? From what I understand, we should have an advantage signing young players in the South London area. Is this true? And now that we have a top level academy, it makes it more likely that we can retain local talent?

I'm hoping that our new academy gives us a pipeline of good young players that other mid-tier clubs won't have. Like I would imagine South London would have a constant stream of good young talent. That makes me think that even if we have a terrible year, and get relegated, we should be able to rebound quickly.

Right on all counts Wilbraham.

 

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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 05 Oct 21 4.47pm Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Academy 1 makes it easier to sign players and means that you can easily poach players from non Academy 1 clubs and makes it harder to have out own best academy players poached from other clubs. I don't agree with the EPPP but now it is there, we need to use it to our own advantage. It's vital for a London club as there are already 5 other Academy 1 clubs in London.

It's expensive so it's surprising so many non PL clubs are on the list; Arsenal, Aston Villa, Birmingham City, Blackburn, Burnley, Brighton, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Derby County, Everton, Fulham, Leeds United, Leicester City, Liverpool, Newcastle United, Manchester City, Manchester United, Middlesbrough, Norwich City, Nottingham Forest, Reading, Southampton, Stoke City, Sunderland, Tottenham, West Brom, West Ham and Wolves.

 


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Originally posted by topcat

Academy 1 makes it easier to sign players and means that you can easily poach players from non Academy 1 clubs and makes it harder to have out own best academy players poached from other clubs. I don't agree with the EPPP but now it is there, we need to use it to our own advantage. It's vital for a London club as there are already 5 other Academy 1 clubs in London.

It's expensive so it's surprising so many non PL clubs are on the list; Arsenal, Aston Villa, Birmingham City, Blackburn, Burnley, Brighton, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Derby County, Everton, Fulham, Leeds United, Leicester City, Liverpool, Newcastle United, Manchester City, Manchester United, Middlesbrough, Norwich City, Nottingham Forest, Reading, Southampton, Stoke City, Sunderland, Tottenham, West Brom, West Ham and Wolves.

Not long until the top 6 introduce the "super academy "then- to make the rest less lucrative- and attractive.

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 05 Oct 21 4.58pm Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

In theory yes.

In practice, only time will tell.

So many players seam to move around the academies (Eze as an example) before finding a home.

Brentford have done away with their academy.... will be interesting to see if that's a better model in the long term

 

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Originally posted by Wilbraham413

Can anyone educate me as to how our new academy works in terms of which young players do we have the advantage of signing? From what I understand, we should have an advantage signing young players in the South London area. Is this true? And now that we have a top level academy, it makes it more likely that we can retain local talent?

I'm hoping that our new academy gives us a pipeline of good young players that other mid-tier clubs won't have. Like I would imagine South London would have a constant stream of good young talent. That makes me think that even if we have a terrible year, and get relegated, we should be able to rebound quickly.

Man U poached one of our Academy scouts - I hope they won't nick too many local players. [Link]

 


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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 05 Oct 21 7.22pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Man U poached one of our Academy scouts - I hope they won't nick too many local players. [Link]

Indeed!

Jarrett seemed to be the main man in terms of our youth recruitment and it was well publicised that he was pivotal in the recruitment of so many of the current U18 squad, which has been phenomenally successful.

By poaching Jarrett, Man Utd clearly intend on cornering the South London market in terms of up and coming talent.

 

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Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

Indeed!

Jarrett seemed to be the main man in terms of our youth recruitment and it was well publicised that he was pivotal in the recruitment of so many of the current U18 squad, which has been phenomenally successful.

By poaching Jarrett, Man Utd clearly intend on cornering the South London market in terms of up and coming talent.

Players aged 13-16 have to live within 90 minutes travelling time of their club - bet they’re keen on HS2.

 

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View Phil’s Barber's Profile Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 05 Oct 21 8.53pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Players aged 13-16 have to live within 90 minutes travelling time of their club - bet they’re keen on HS2.

That is interesting to know Teddy, I wasn’t aware of that.

Clearly though United know exactly what they are doing by poaching Jarrett from us. The reports at the time of his appointment for United all commented on how influential and successful Jarrett had been with our recruitment of our current U18 squad.

Just reading some of the reports again it seems Jarrett had been with Palace for about ten years and was either Head of Academy recruitment or Assistant Head (dependent on which report you read) he was also the co-founder and director of football for Lambeth Tigers. Clearly hugely connected in London and the South and no doubt why United have appointed him as their lead scout for the ‘South of England’.

 

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Very.

 

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Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

That is interesting to know Teddy, I wasn’t aware of that.

Clearly though United know exactly what they are doing by poaching Jarrett from us. The reports at the time of his appointment for United all commented on how influential and successful Jarrett had been with our recruitment of our current U18 squad.

Just reading some of the reports again it seems Jarrett had been with Palace for about ten years and was either Head of Academy recruitment or Assistant Head (dependent on which report you read) he was also the co-founder and director of football for Lambeth Tigers. Clearly hugely connected in London and the South and no doubt why United have appointed him as their lead scout for the ‘South of England’.


This is all highly irritating.

Hopefully effective plans in response are afoot.

London isn't the domain of fecking Man U......fecking Beckham should have been a Spurs player.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Oct 2021 8.56am)

 


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