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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Oct 21 10.36pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So how has brexit affected you.
Phycologically clearly but that's a personal problem you may need help with.

If you think my primary concern is myself then you haven't been following me very well.

I am fortunate that although I am impacted like everyone by shortages and rising prices, I have sufficient reserves to weather the storms. My needs are few, and my personal concerns are much more to do with my health.

My big concerns are about the future of my country, and especially that of my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

Both my kids, and all my grandchildren, were dismayed that we voted to leave and blame my generation for being so short-sighted. I care about that.


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Oct 21 11.12pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Removed. Duplicate.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (13 Oct 2021 11.14pm)

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you think my primary concern is myself then you haven't been following me very well.

I am fortunate that although I am impacted like everyone by shortages and rising prices, I have sufficient reserves to weather the storms. My needs are few, and my personal concerns are much more to do with my health.

My big concerns are about the future of my country, and especially that of my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

Both my kids, and all my grandchildren, were dismayed that we voted to leave and blame my generation for being so short-sighted. I care about that.


Edited by Wisbech Eagle (13 Oct 2021 11.14pm)

You think they are dismayed behind your back as well?

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Oct 21 8.41am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

You think they are dismayed behind your back as well?

Dismayed is the polite way of expressing it. They are angry with us.

The future belongs to them, not us, yet our generation has decided what their parameters are going to be, at least until the time comes when they can outvote us.

Maybe we should have had a conditional referendum which was weighted by life expectancy!

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Oct 21 9.33am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Dismayed is the polite way of expressing it. They are angry with us.

The future belongs to them, not us, yet our generation has decided what their parameters are going to be, at least until the time comes when they can outvote us.

Maybe we should have had a conditional referendum which was weighted by life expectancy!

I'm still angry with your generation for voting to join the Common Market I was 13 at the time. "You stole my future".

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Oct 21 10.04am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I'm still angry with your generation for voting to join the Common Market I was 13 at the time. "You stole my future".

We didn't vote to join. That was decided, correctly in my opinion, by Parliament on our behalf. The referendum in 1975 gave approval, by a 2/3rds majority, to continue our membership.

2/3rds is pretty decisive. There will always be those who disagree, but when the numbers are almost equally split, then the voices of those most affected ought to be listened to.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Oct 21 11.16am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Young people’s concerns change and will change. It is only the comfortable and those in their little bubbles away from the issues that wish for the concerns to continue for those not in their comfort bubble. By that time we’ll hopefully address a lot of the labour force/work dodging issues in England that I’ve no doubt needed some shocks for various groups of people to do it.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Oct 21 11.32am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Young people’s concerns change and will change. It is only the comfortable and those in their little bubbles away from the issues that wish for the concerns to continue for those not in their comfort bubble. By that time we’ll hopefully address a lot of the labour force/work dodging issues in England that I’ve no doubt needed some shocks for various groups of people to do it.

There are lots of "little bubbles"! There's one here. One whose "concerns" are not replicated everywhere.

Some of those bubbles are going to be pricked and one of the most obvious, to me anyway, is this idea that there is a pool of untapped labour in our ranks waiting to be harnessed by higher wages and/or the removal of benefits.

A high wage economy sounds great, but it can only work if it is accompanied by high productivity. Which is something we are notoriously poor at achieving.

Without that, higher wages equals inflation and inflation hits those on fixed incomes, including the retired like many here, hardest.

So, in Simon Jordan's words, "Be careful what you wish for".

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Oct 21 11.36am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

The old argument -

‘’I want to be able to work anywhere including top jobs only a few can work in, or bar work for a few months when it suits me in my early twenties. Or just to know I could if I wanted to’’ versus ‘’I don’t want to have to move away/abroad to be able to live/work against my wishes (when the others could apply for work permits to work abroad if they really wanted to anyway)’’

Then there are those p1ssed off they can’t live and retire abroad on the cheap which causes issues in some areas they want to move to.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Oct 21 11.38am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There are lots of "little bubbles"! There's one here. One whose "concerns" are not replicated everywhere.

Some of those bubbles are going to be pricked and one of the most obvious, to me anyway, is this idea that there is a pool of untapped labour in our ranks waiting to be harnessed by higher wages and/or the removal of benefits.

A high wage economy sounds great, but it can only work if it is accompanied by high productivity. Which is something we are notoriously poor at achieving.

Without that, higher wages equals inflation and inflation hits those on fixed incomes, including the retired like many here, hardest.

So, in Simon Jordan's words, "Be careful what you wish for".

In your comfortable little bubble these concerns don’t exist.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Oct 21 9.48pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

In your comfortable little bubble these concerns don’t exist.

In case you forgot, Cornwall voted to leave the EU. It also hasn't yet put up any barriers to homeownership here, either permanent or second homes.

So the majority of people here, which has a higher than average proportion of retirees, obviously share some of your concerns. They also have the door open to you should the burden of living in a multicultural city become too much for you.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Oct 21 10.04pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

In case you forgot, Cornwall voted to leave the EU. It also hasn't yet put up any barriers to homeownership here, either permanent or second homes.

So the majority of people here, which has a higher than average proportion of retirees, obviously share some of your concerns. They also have the door open to you should the burden of living in a multicultural city become too much for you.

Multicultural soon becoming the minority. And it’s the type of culture that’s the concern. Actually south of the borough the ethnic minorities are all fine.

 


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